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WiiU shouldve come out in

2006 116 35.69%
 
2012 149 45.85%
 
show me the goddamn results 60 18.46%
 
Total:325
Sal.Paradise said:
I don't know why you guys are getting offended over this? We all know the Wii thrived largely by targeting a different market to the HD twins, it was a very different machine to them and had its own specialized market along with the smaller core contingent of Nintendo fans. The guy is just saying it like it is.

I'm with you on this.



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Pre-emptive damage control for when they get their asses kicked by Wii U?

The goal-posts are in motion already!



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Similar statement to the ones with DS and Wii.

Totally right. During E3, Iwata recently a French paper that WiiU is not designed to compete with PS3/360, let alone PS4/Xbox3 because Nintendo "doesn't want to compete with other companies on what they do best" and that "[those companies] address essentially male young adults" (suggesting that Nintendo is not planning to target them). See the link (in French though)

http://www.nintendo-difference.com/news25635-satoru-iwata-interviewe-par-le-figaro.htm

The Wii family therefore has its own cycle, disconnected from the PS360 generation, and its own audience, equally disconnected from the PS360 audience.



MessiaH said:
Aielyn said:
MessiaH said:
What is wrong with that quote? It couldn't be any truer. It is actually a compliment. Every business wants a large niche to itself and Nintendo got it in spades!

"Large Niche" is a contradiction in terms. The term "niche" has a meaning, and it's inconsistent with that use of the word "large".

Actually, you are entirely wrong. A niche does not mean "of small proportion" to become an oxymoron with the word large. You can have a HUUUUGE niche if you want. You can have a niche that even reaches mass market potential. Enlightened? Now go use your new found definition to the word and find your niche in this world!

You're welcome.

You are wrong, since I never said that it means "of small proportion". I said that the term does not permit the use of the term "large". There's a very major difference between the two.

"Niche" as a noun has three meanings. The first one refers to a shallow recess, and is the original meaning. The second one means "a comfortable or suitable position in life" - not applicable, here, as markets are never comfortable. The third one refers to specialisation - literally, specialised but profitable. Note that "specialised" implies small, because if it was "mass market", then it wouldn't be so specialised.

A niche, in terms of market, would refer to things like "the niche market for kangaroo meat" or (less likely, since it's probably not profitable) "the niche market for puzzle games based on soccer". It might refer to "the niche market for ultra-gory titles that use only black, white, and red". But the key to these are that they're all relatively small markets, very specialised. And before you bother to make the absurd claim, the fact is that "casual games" are not specialised in any sense, and it isn't even a well-defined concept - "casual game" is mostly code for "games in genres that I don't like, but that sell well". In other words, the exact opposite of a niche.

But hey, why bother actually learning the real meaning of the word, when you've already decided you know it?



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That poll result is indeed worrying. 40% actually think that Nintendo should have released the Wii U in 2006?

The PS3 was released at $600, now add the spec improvements and the freaking tablet controller and you will reach a price beyond sanity. Especially given how the Gamecube sold despite its price.



I voted for wii u should have been released in 2006 just for fun. It's funny to vote for things like that.

At least this time, wii u is releasing before everyone so it has an excuse to be underpowered in comparison. If it is underpowered of course, which I think it will be.



ryuzaki57 said:
Totally right. During E3, Iwata recently a French paper that WiiU is not designed to compete with PS3/360, let alone PS4/Xbox3 because Nintendo "doesn't want to compete with other companies on what they do best" and that "[those companies] address essentially male young adults" (suggesting that Nintendo is not planning to target them). See the link (in French though)

http://www.nintendo-difference.com/news25635-satoru-iwata-interviewe-par-le-figaro.htm

The Wii family therefore has its own cycle, disconnected from the PS360 generation, and its own audience, equally disconnected from the PS360 audience.

Again, pre-emptive damage control, on both sides of the plate.



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Sal.Paradise said:
I don't know why you guys are getting offended over this? We all know the Wii thrived largely by targeting a different market to the HD twins, it was a very different machine to them and had its own specialized market along with the smaller core contingent of Nintendo fans. The guy is just saying it like it is.

Sal, it's not that I disagree. I just disagree with the wording. But I thought I said as much :(

I wouldn't hold it against you, but there are some in here *cough chocoloco cough turkish* who constantly miss what some of us are trying to say. They're the ppl I'm annoyed at. And I called out the Sony reps on it, some people just can't take that.



well he is on the money with that one. Even Nintendo seems to believe it



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