I wanna call 'em stupid as well - but we gotta remember Wii; the whole gaming business thought it would fail, and it became the 3rd most sold home console ever. took them to the top for the first time in almost 2 decades...

Noooo, but you and I believed it would do well, and we were right. The games were right, Wii Sports was good! So was TP, and everything was well planned.

Now, what do we have??? Nintendoland... I am ashamed to be a Nintendo fan, honestly. How can their strategy ever work with moves like that. I mean, Wii Fit U is borderline acceptable, but Nintendoland?

Talk about alienating a market. They are fucked and I don't think they will dig their way out. At this point I think I've lost all faith in them.

Need more info on online network functionality. The miiverse explenation in the nintendo direct and press conference didnt go into more detail as far as achievements tied to your mii or friends interactions during games. Waiting for clarification before im 100% sold.

That is interesting and makes some sense when you think about it. Most games in the future will be multiplat or on the PC, but Nintendo's first party promises at least give the Wii U some strength over it's competitors.

Yes, though I'm already sold on purchasing a Wii U, some more clarification on Nintendo Network would be much appreciated. Though, in Sunday's Nintendo Direct, I think there was an allusion toward achievements if you read one of the chat bubbles of the Miis.

Interesting reading all the comments. The negativity comes from generally the same people who have been negative about Nintendo and mostly play other consoles. The positive comments come from those who have been staunch defenders of Nintendo.

All of this points to the fact that if the intent of this presser was to change people's minds, it did not accomplish that. But if it were to provide general information about console and the games coming out "in the launch window" (which appears to be through the Holiday season), then it did OK. And talk about understated -- Nintendo left two FIRST-PARTY games out that would have gathered more attention (and which may be later than the holidays): P-100 and Game & Wario.

Essentially, given the development time and business decisions, the line-up of games looks pretty good. It is a bit surprising that Activision is not represented, especially with Skylanders Giants (maybe backward comparability has something to do with it. Maybe the unknown of the controller NFC) and Tryarch's CoD:BO2 (since Tryarch tried on the Wii, something that Infinity Ward never seemed to do). But concerns about updated ports miss the point that those happen all the time and reach new audiences.

Look, time will show who is right. Nintendo has a decent line-up -- just a bad stage presence. The 5-minute sizzle reel on the Wii's Nintendo Channel was better than the e3 show.

And nothing has deterred me from a Day 1 purchase.

Mike from Morgantown

I think that NintendoLand will go down with the casuals - I might like some of the concepts there as well. I like the team work they got going in there, and the asymetric game play....

And, don't forget that it's launching with 2D Mario - you can always count on Mario! Wii Fit U won't sell nearly as good as the 2 first entries in the series, I'm guessing 5-10m sold copies...

WiiU will sell around 60-80 million copies. That's not an analyzis, it's just a guess - and not a very quilified one at that.

I have said before, I'm still getting it, it will have what I want, whether now or later. The difference is now, for the first time I am going to preorder the console, having never bothered to preorder any console before, truth is they sold me before the BS stuff started, and honestly I think they miscalculated the amount of time they would need.

Nintendo also gave me something I demanded of them (I wrote them over this), transferring Wii VC purchases to the Wii U. I am sure many wanted this, and what I said to them is the same - I won't invest in your digital content if I am going to loose it come time for a new console. Will. Not. Do. It.

So all in all, they gave us online, transferable wii vc purchases, pro controller, two gamepads, Mario as a launch title,the gamepad and its ability to free up the TV, quality graphics, support for an external hard drive (I have a 2TB drive sitting with nothing on it right now, of course provided its not proprietary, but since their doing SD cards it shouldn't be), things the kids will be interested in doing together and some multimedia features that I expect to expand out (Ala HBO Go and the like).

Did I want to see Zelda? sure, Metroid? Yea, I want a lot, but its going to come and I can't wait to preorder, in fact that's what they didn't give me, a date, but I knew they weren't going to.

Wow, nice self-fulfilling prophecy. I've been a staunch Nintendo fan for the past 20 years, and I am negative about this. So what does that say about your first paragraph.

Time may show, but with their performance yesterday, it's hard to give them the benefit of the doubt, and I'm tired of giving them the benefit of the doubt. They have caused a massive drought in Wii sales output for what? Absolutely nothing.

It says that "generally" does not mean everyone.

To be more precise, those who have been playing HD consoles are not impressed -- but then again, I don't think that is exclusively the target market. The people on message boards tend to be a lot of that group and thus reading them things may appear much worse than they did to the general public.

Mike from Moragntown