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gumby_trucker on 26 May 2012
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

If this law is supposed to stop Muslims from living and acting from the Islamic laws, then it is indeed pointless.

We made a very recent survey here in Sweden. Dressed as vulnerable muslim wives, women would go to several mosques and ask their lead imams different questions based on their imaginary scenario:

- What should I do now that my husband wants to marry another woman?
- My husband sometimes beat me and force me to have sex with him, should I go to the police?

Only ONE out of TEN imams (who represent the entire Muslim population in their respective communities) recommended that the women should go to the police, despite these obvious violations of our laws. SIX out of TEN told them not to go to the police.

Before this survey, the same investigators openly asked the very same imams the same questions in front of a camera. Then they obviously said things like "Of course the thought of a man having more than one wife in the Swedish society is absurd. Men and female are entirely equal."


I can't know for sure if this 9/10 number applies to the rest of our Muslim population (and it probably doesn't), but it's a good indicator of how dangerous this religion can be due to its suppression of having your own interpretations of the Koran.

I haven't read all the details about the Kansas law, perhaps it is poorly written or impossible to implement as it is. However I do think of these kind of laws more as preventive measures than anything else. Even if they have no consequence in the real world, the state is making a stand in order to create precedants for what they believe will be an ongoing trend. Europe, especially the UK, was too late to react to Muslim immigration and will be paying the price for many years to come. I'm hoping American governors have that in mind when signing such bills.



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oldschoolfool on 26 May 2012

should'nt the bill be a given? I think the bill is kind of racist and a waste of time.



Soleron on 26 May 2012

Bill achieves nothing, not worth talking about.

Muslim laws only hold if both parties consent to arbitration by them, and also no US laws are broken. That situation doesn't need fixing, if people want to submit to it then it's their problem.



Kasz216 on 26 May 2012
SamuelRSmith said:
Runa216 said:
oh good, now if just they could enact the same kind of ruling about biblical law with christianity


When was the last time somebody was arrested for adultery, or desire for adultery?


http://kissrichmond.com/1924342/real-talk-man-has-wife-arrested-charged-for-committing-adultery/

I doubt they actually charged her.... but you did only ask for arrested.



Runa216 on 26 May 2012
Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Runa216 said:
oh good, now if just they could enact the same kind of ruling about biblical law with christianity


When was the last time somebody was arrested for adultery, or desire for adultery?


http://kissrichmond.com/1924342/real-talk-man-has-wife-arrested-charged-for-committing-adultery/

I doubt they actually charged her.... but you did only ask for arrested.

Wait, adultery is actually illegal?  man, that's dumb. what if you're polyamorous but the government only lets you marry one person?! 



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babuks on 26 May 2012

This is democracy... Everyone has their say except non-democracy people.



Mr Khan on 26 May 2012

unnecessary reactionary redneck boondoggle.



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SamuelRSmith on 27 May 2012
Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Runa216 said:
oh good, now if just they could enact the same kind of ruling about biblical law with christianity


When was the last time somebody was arrested for adultery, or desire for adultery?


http://kissrichmond.com/1924342/real-talk-man-has-wife-arrested-charged-for-committing-adultery/

I doubt they actually charged her.... but you did only ask for arrested.

Hahaha, well, I stand corrected.



outlawauron on 27 May 2012
BasilZero said:
Kasz216 said:
SamuelRSmith said:
Runa216 said:
oh good, now if just they could enact the same kind of ruling about biblical law with christianity


When was the last time somebody was arrested for adultery, or desire for adultery?


http://kissrichmond.com/1924342/real-talk-man-has-wife-arrested-charged-for-committing-adultery/

I doubt they actually charged her.... but you did only ask for arrested.


In Arizona, adultery is a Class 3 misdemeanor, which carries the possibility of a $500 fine and up to 30 days in jail.

 

That isnt going by a religious law, its a state law, if 49 states didnt provide it and one state did, its that state's option to do so, you cant blame an entire religion on it.

Also, so much for the first amendment.

Yeah, Runa. I'm not seeing where you can go anti-religion with this here. There's nothing to go on, and comments like that are just silly.



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Runa216 on 28 May 2012
outlawauron said:

Yeah, Runa. I'm not seeing where you can go anti-religion with this here. There's nothing to go on, and comments like that are just silly.

*shrugs*  I just think religion should keep its nose out of government.  It's a pretty old-timey issue, and the fact that they basically banned shariah law from being practiced is, in my opinion, a step in the right direction. I stand by my statement. 



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