Lets hope Microsoft gives a decent E3 press...
I hope to see some gameplay for Forza Horizon, Halo 4, Tomb Raider, Black Ops II, RySe (if it exists anymore) and much more like GTA V or Bioshock Infinite.
When I was your age, the video game world was actually about video games.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
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I actually loléd this fake Kaz is great!
It's just that simple.
VGKing said:
You think Microsoft can launch and sustain a new console with just more Forza and Halo + Kinect and 3rd party support? Sooner or later people will get tired of that. NEW IPs are needed. If MS is cares about gamers they are developing some new IP for Xbox 720. If they were smart they'd launch new IPs on 360 and carry that momentum over to the 720. |
Ok this is interesting.
"Sooner or later" is funny given the console is in its 7th year, which is impressive in itself.
New gaming experiences? Well between retail, motion, and XBLA 360 has so far in 2012 more games not on PS3 then vise versa. Not to mention 360 has a sizable lead on games rated above 70-79, 80-89, and even 90+ on metacritic.
MS DID launch a console based on Forza, Halo, Gears....only recently with kinect. Its now year 7 and its still working. Thing is some people only see gaming in the realm of exclusives......neglecting that 90%+ of a library is multiplats. Real gamers just buy games regardless of platform availability and 360 is generally regarded as the multiplatform console of choice.
New IPs? Like Starhawk? Sorry to strike a low blow like that but new IPs are only relevant as the number of gamers asking for them. With MS they stick with what works and use the 3rd party devs to take risks with new IPs like with Fez and Trials Evolution.
Thing is MS is just trying to please everybody at once and offcourse the gamers are gonna feel left out. But thats the price you pay for success...you expand.
Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Yep. Microsoft has kind of exploited the weakness of the gaming industry, in which the majority of sales don't come from the gamers. Give the gamers a little fun to give yourself a solid base and then let the third parties do all the work. Microsoft doesn't operate like a gaming company, but rather a smart, profitable American corporation who knows how to draw money out of people by any means necessary. Less money on games, more money on marketing. Kinect never came before the Eye toy, but everyone never knew the Eye Toy existed when the device was made primarily for them. Microsoft had the Kinect everywhere a casual would look in America which is smart. Americans will buy anything as long as it is a new fad during the holiday season. At this point it doesn't matter what the gamers want, they could launch without focusing on them and still survive. I made a joke today that Halo is their pacifier for the gamers, because if they bitch all they have to do is say STFU and put a Halo pacifier in their mouth. lol |
Ya lets just ignore who started this trend cough* Nintendo Wii and blame MS for appealing to the mass market.
But MS has only recently begun building up its 1st party base, so naturally the smart thing to do is make deals with the 3rd party.....I dont see how that can be spun negatively until MS has sufficient 1st party devs of their own.
I really don't like how you downplay Americans as stupid and gullible. Given 360 has its biggest install base in North America your insults extend to Mexico and Canada (which is almost exactly the same gaming tastes as the states). Marketing is a useful tool to get the word out. Launching a great product and relying on gamer only word of mouth isnt gonna get you anywhere anymore. And you assume the eye-toy had the same potential as kinect....which is incredibly false.
360 big hitters like Gears and Halo are what the 360 gamers want. You like something you naturally ask for more. Sony gives gamers something they like but instead of encouraging it and feeding it they move on to another origional game that the fans may or may not even want....like Starhawk for example. If you like a game they make you wont see a sequel for years because they are just throwing out different ideas blindly. I for one really enjoy Halo and I want as much as MS can give to me. And im sure im not alone there.
But 360 still has variety in 3rd party stuff and XBLA especially so it all evens out. Just a difference between 360 and PS3 gamers I suppose.
Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.
sales2099 said:
Ya lets just ignore who started this trend cough* Nintendo Wii and blame MS for appealing to the mass market. But MS has only recently begun building up its 1st party base, so naturally the smart thing to do is make deals with the 3rd party.....I dont see how that can be spun negatively until MS has sufficient 1st party devs of their own. I really don't like how you downplay Americans as stupid and gullible. Given 360 has its biggest install base in North America your insults extend to Mexico and Canada (which is almost exactly the same gaming tastes as the states). Marketing is a useful tool to get the word out. Launching a great product and relying on gamer only word of mouth isnt gonna get you anywhere anymore. And you assume the eye-toy had the same potential as kinect....which is incredibly false. 360 big hitters like Gears and Halo are what the 360 gamers want. You like something you naturally ask for more. Sony gives gamers something they like but instead of encouraging it and feeding it they move on to another origional game that the fans may or may not even want....like Starhawk for example. If you like a game they make you wont see a sequel for years because they are just throwing out different ideas blindly. I for one really enjoy Halo and I want as much as MS can give to me. And im sure im not alone there. But 360 still has variety in 3rd party stuff and XBLA especially so it all evens out. Just a difference between 360 and PS3 gamers I suppose. |
You're know you're explaining why Sony is a great gaming company and Microsoft is just a really good publisher who knows its strength if you think about it. Also, based on sales America has proven itself to be the best nation to exploit their spending weaknesses. Nintendo lives to make family gaming products and the Wii was one out of the bunch and Microsoft and Sony jumped on the same crowd. Sony just made it evident they really don't care about casualized titles though, because in the long run the tech must run well with the games. Secondly Nintendo and Sony made their peripherals, Microsoft paid for theirs and then did extra R&D on it. The Kinect idea isn't new, Microsoft just knows better than Sony that is not just about who has the product but who shouts the loudest about it in America. If you create a media blitz Americans will flock to it, especially during the holiday season. The highest sales will always be concentrated there, so if you want to do that you better start investing. A good lesson Sony needs to learn from Microsoft.
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