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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
maverick40 said:
So potentially, Microsoft could have to pay Motorolla 4 billion dollars every year in royalties...nice!


I think that Motorola dug their own hole when admitting that the 4 billion was just "start negotiations", which is basically saying that they are using the numbers they throw just as a leverage and a threat. 

But then again, it was probably MS fault who started this head2head dispute with Motorola and now are having a taste of their own medicine. 
It's A bit like that time Sony patent trolled LG and had the plan backfiring with patent counter claims from LG almost stopping PS3 shipments to Europe until they both settled the dispute and dropped their claims. 

This story will probably end up the same way here. Too bad that companies are wasting time on lawyers and politics instead of actual innovation

This. Patent trolls are often drama queens and souq merchants. Although after SCO's Darl McBride, even Ballmer looks sober.   



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Jadedx said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
Jadedx said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
VGKing said:
D-Joe said:
disolitude said:

The only patent that Motorola has here is the video encoding patent involving H.264 and Microsoft is willing to pay royalties for it. However here is where the issue lies...

 

Microsoft is arguing that under FRAND (fair and non discriminatory) terms, Motorola is out of line. And I don't blame them...


i see you post this in N4G and get tons of disagree,why?

The exact same comment is on N4G.... http://n4g.com/news/985042/bloomberg-motorola-mobility-wins-ruling-in-microsoft-xbox-patent-case/com 

I guess the disagrees is because siding with Microsoft is bad?

No, its because N4G has a very biased fanbase.

Like vgchartz.


Seriously? Dude, go to N4g orLensoftruth webites. Youll see how forgiving Vgchartz is. 

The post above, and below yours proves my point.


No, it does not.

Two users, even if they were biased, do not prove the bias of over 80,000 users who are registered here.



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Motorola doesn't fuck around lol

Microsoft better make a counter-offer now because losing 4 billion dollars a year on top of the large amount they already pay in fees is disastrous.



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kowenicki said:
Posturing... Retaliation

It will all be settled and to every ones satisfaction.

Especially the lawyers I suspect.  I'm only bitter because I almost went for corporate law and litigation and changed my mind when all my friends promised to disown me.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

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I'm not up to speed on this, but it doesn't seem like MS is contesting that they are using the patents. They are stating that Motorola's demands are outrageous and goes against FRAND. As others have said, it will all be settled later on.



Eurogamer

Motorola has won an injunction against Windows 7 and the Xbox 360 in Germany - but a sales ban remains unlikely, for now.

A judge at the German Mannheim Regional Court today ruled against Microsoft in the case of four lawsuits filed by Motorola relating to patents that cover the H.264 video encoding standard - the format in which roughly 80 per cent of all digital videos are recorded.

The injunction relates to the distribution of Windows 7, Internet Explorer, Windows Media Player and the Xbox 360. Motorola also wants products involved to be recalled from retail and destroyed.

Microsoft wants Motorola to license the patents under fair and reasonable terms, which it is required to do under antitrust laws, claiming they will "kill video on the web" if they don't. Motorola demands royalties estimated at $4 billion annually - terms Microsoft refuses to accept.

According to Foss Patents' Florian Mueller, this royalty estimate was intended to force Microsoft into a broad cross-license agreement. The European Commission is investigating Motorola over suspicions that this conduct violates EU antitrust law.

Foss Patents explained that the injunction is unenforceable at this time, due to Microsoft's inevitable appeal and the likelihood it will be found to have been improperly granted. But the biggest obstacle to Motorola's cause lies in the US, and the decision made by a US court relating to Microsoft's call to enforce Motorola's licensing promise on a worldwide basis.

"If Microsoft keeps on winning decision after decision in that litigation, Motorola won't get to enforce the German decision," Mueller said.

A full panel will review the decision of the US International Trade Commission judge in August. If the decision stands and Microsoft doesn't settle, Motorola could theoretically force it to halt all US-bound Xbox 360 imports.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-02-motorola-wins-injunction-against-windows-7-and-xbox-360-in-germany



As I posted in the other thread you got locked - This is interesting.



                            

Carl2291 said:
As I posted in the other thread  - This is interesting.

You got locked? it was a duplicate thread.



Eurogamer

The ongoing legal dispute between Motorola and Microsoft over the latter's alleged patent infringements has heated up, with a presiding US judge scolding both parties for their behavior so far.

As reported by GamesIndustry International, Judge James Robart accused the warring factions of using the US District Court as "a pawn in a global, industry-wide business negotiation." He added that both sides are clearly "driven by an attempt to secure commercial advantage".

"To an outsider looking at it, it has been arbitrary, it has been arrogant and frankly it has been based on hubris," he said.

Motorola has accused Microsoft of infringing its patents in Xbox 360 components, while Microsoft claims Motorola is in breach of contract.

German court has already ruled in favour of Motorola, granting an injunction prohibiting sales of the console in the country. However, Robart has issued a temporary restraining order preventing Motorola from enforcing that decision until he has ruled on the US case.

Yesterday he announced that he needs more time to come to a conclusion. According to theSeattle Times, it's thought he will likely deny Microsoft's claim that Motorola breached its contract, but also deny Motorola's motion that Microsoft gave up its right to licenses under reasonable terms.

There's also a parallel dispute running in the US Trade Commission. If rulings go against Microsoft in both cases, it could be banned from importing Xbox 360s into the US from China, with serious ramifications for its production costs.

"We look forward to seeing Judge Robart's decision on today's hearing and we are pleased the temporary restraining order remains in place pending the further ruling from the court," said a Microsoft spokesperson.

Meanwhile, Motorola said: "We remain confident that Motorola Mobility has honored its FRAND commitments, and have a long history of successful and amicable cross-licensing relationships with more than 50 companies.

"Despite this, Microsoft has refused to negotiate and has instead initiated and continued to pursue an aggressive litigation strategy aimed at attacking Motorola Mobility and the Android platform.

"Regardless of their transparent tactics, we are focused on resolving this matter in a way that fairly compensates Motorola Mobility for the use of our valuable IP and protects the interests of our stakeholders."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-08-microsoft-vs-motorola-legal-row-gets-nasty