deskpro2k3 said: racism is stupid. those people who mugged that white guy will do that to a black guy anyways.

This. Anyone who's visited WSHH would have seen many vids of this kinda thing being done by blacks against blacks. Those rarely make the news as well. There was one where a girl was beaten to the point of having a seizure and another where a pregnant girl was getting beaten with guys helping and many just standing by laughing. Can't say it was because he was white but it was surely messed up. The case where the 2 white guys shot 5 black people was quickly forgotten as well because people were arrested. It certainly disappeared from CNN just as fast if not faster

Now I see another in this thread using this behavior to condemn immigrants. Does anyone call people who have been around for 400 years immigrants?

The funny fact is that african immigrants [nigerians especially] are the most educated group in the U.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_immigration_to_the_United_States. Just scroll to the "educational attainment section"

The census 2000 document is here http://www.census.gov/population/cen2000/stp-159/STP-159-nigeria.pdf

Surprising heh?

lilbroex said: thismeintiel said: lilbroex said: thismeintiel said: superchunk said: Has this been reported on ANY main news site? Of course not.  They're only looking for stories where a black individual gets hurt/killed by someone who may sorta kinda be white. You won't see the video in the title post on any major news sites for the same reasons that you don't see the one right above you on any major news sites or the thousands like it, because its not that big of a deal. You just want it to be far more than it is, so you can use it to make bitter comments against what you've chosen to view as unfair favoritism towards black people. Had that been a black tourist in a place where he wasn't the supposed to be, the same would have happened. Go to Eastern Europe and walk through a white ghetto filled with hoods and see if they will come up and give you a hug out of brotherly love. The guy wasn't attacked because he was white. The racist element is something you and the others in this thread have chosen to add at and for your own convenience. And I bet in the same breath you'll tell me Zimmerman was a racist.   Couldn't say, but I will say that had that been a white boy in a hoodie, he more than likely wouldn't have viewed him as suspicious, stalked him home and mudered him.

yeah, thats why Zimmerman lead the charge to raise awareness and seek justice for a black teen that was attacked unjustly for just being black.

thats also why zimmerman would give out free tutoring to black kids to help them out in school.

 

and you are already showing your incredible bias, just as the media has by being the judge jury and excecutioner. you say he murdered him, when so far all evidence shwon to us has made it very much seem self defense, from eye witnesses, to audio tapes, to video. None of it points to murder.

killerzX said: lilbroex said: thismeintiel said: lilbroex said: thismeintiel said: superchunk said: Has this been reported on ANY main news site? Of course not.  They're only looking for stories where a black individual gets hurt/killed by someone who may sorta kinda be white. You won't see the video in the title post on any major news sites for the same reasons that you don't see the one right above you on any major news sites or the thousands like it, because its not that big of a deal. You just want it to be far more than it is, so you can use it to make bitter comments against what you've chosen to view as unfair favoritism towards black people. Had that been a black tourist in a place where he wasn't the supposed to be, the same would have happened. Go to Eastern Europe and walk through a white ghetto filled with hoods and see if they will come up and give you a hug out of brotherly love. The guy wasn't attacked because he was white. The racist element is something you and the others in this thread have chosen to add at and for your own convenience. And I bet in the same breath you'll tell me Zimmerman was a racist.   Couldn't say, but I will say that had that been a white boy in a hoodie, he more than likely wouldn't have viewed him as suspicious, stalked him home and mudered him. yeah, thats why Zimmerman lead the charge to raise awareness and seek justice for a black teen that was attacked unjustly for just being black. thats also why zimmerman would give out free tutoring to black kids to help them out in school.   and you are already showing your incredible bias, just as the media has by being the judge jury and excecutioner. you say he murdered him, when so far all evidence shwon to us has made it very much seem self defense, from eye witnesses, to audio tapes, to video. None of it points to murder.

I've never once looked at the media's opinion on the matter. Ever. I looked at the data and facts myself straight from the beginning and came to my own conclusion based purely on the facts. One of the key signs of a racist is stating that they have friend's of the group or that they have helped them before. That doesn't mean anything. I've helped inividuals I didn't like out all the time. Didn't get payed for it either. I did it because it was a good thing to do.

I guess that since some of the pastors accused of molestation helped even more kids than they molested, that is completely absolves the them of all guilt and means that they aren't a child molestors when I use your logic.

All evidence shows that there was no struggle whatsoever and his own call to police show that he "stalked" Travyon of his own volition despite being told not to by the police. The phone call analyzed by forsenic and technical exports verified that it was Trayvon screaming in the background as he was being attacked by Zimmerman  making Zimmerman the aggressor and nullifying any claim of defense. Video footage of Zimmerman afterwards show that he had not so much as a scuff mark on his shirt much less a bruise constituting an attack which, by the way, would have been Travyon's "right" to do as Zimmerman was the one who persued him, not the other way around.

lilbroex said: killerzX said: lilbroex said: thismeintiel said: lilbroex said: thismeintiel said: superchunk said: Has this been reported on ANY main news site? Of course not.  They're only looking for stories where a black individual gets hurt/killed by someone who may sorta kinda be white. You won't see the video in the title post on any major news sites for the same reasons that you don't see the one right above you on any major news sites or the thousands like it, because its not that big of a deal. You just want it to be far more than it is, so you can use it to make bitter comments against what you've chosen to view as unfair favoritism towards black people. Had that been a black tourist in a place where he wasn't the supposed to be, the same would have happened. Go to Eastern Europe and walk through a white ghetto filled with hoods and see if they will come up and give you a hug out of brotherly love. The guy wasn't attacked because he was white. The racist element is something you and the others in this thread have chosen to add at and for your own convenience. And I bet in the same breath you'll tell me Zimmerman was a racist.   Couldn't say, but I will say that had that been a white boy in a hoodie, he more than likely wouldn't have viewed him as suspicious, stalked him home and mudered him. yeah, thats why Zimmerman lead the charge to raise awareness and seek justice for a black teen that was attacked unjustly for just being black. thats also why zimmerman would give out free tutoring to black kids to help them out in school.   and you are already showing your incredible bias, just as the media has by being the judge jury and excecutioner. you say he murdered him, when so far all evidence shwon to us has made it very much seem self defense, from eye witnesses, to audio tapes, to video. None of it points to murder. I've never once looked at the media's opinion on the matter. Ever. I looked at the data and facts myself straight from the beginning and came to my own conclusion based purely on the facts. One of the key signs of a racist is stating that they have friend's of the group or that they have helped them before. That doesn't mean anything. I've helped inividuals I didn't like out all the time. Didn't get payed for it either. I did it because it was a good thing to do. I guess that since some of the pastors accused of molestation helped even more kids than they molested, that is completely absolves the them of all guilt and means that they aren't a child molestors when I use your logic. All evidence shows that there was no struggle whatsoever and his own call to police show that he "stalked" Travyon of his own volition despite being told not to by the police. The phone call analyzed by forsenic and technical exports verified that it was Trayvon screaming in the background as he was being attacked by Zimmerman  making Zimmerman the aggressor and nullifying any claim of defense. Video footage of Zimmerman afterwards show that he had not so much as a scuff mark on his shirt much less a bruise constituting an attack which, by the way, would have been Travyon's "right" to do as Zimmerman was the one who persued him, not the other way around.

not sure where you getting all of your facts, but some seem to be wrong.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/interactive/2012/04/12/state-florida-vs-george-zimmerman-affidavit-probable-cause/

 

its mentioned in this affidavit that there was a struggle.

it was not forensics, but the victims mother that identified the voice. Not sure if she is completely unbiased in this.

 

I would pst the affidavit but it wont let me.

 

 

America can be a sad place sometimes. Blacks and whites still hating each other is becoming less and less common. These assaults happen all the time on different occasions but we can say it's because these people are savages and has nothing to do with their skin color.

There are a lot of gruesome crimes commited by white people yet we don't label them all as being criminals by nature still a lot of people see stupid people with black sckin doing stupid things is enough to put us all in the same basket.

Bad things happened in America, will I hold grudge to my roomate which is white because some white idiots did bad things to some black guy? 3 years ago two police officers killed an underaged kid here in Montreal and nothing happened to them, should I label all white people savage murderers that will get nothing if they kill immigrants? Are all white kids going to shoot in schools?

There are idiots all over the world and should be treated like idiots and stop this racial thing once and for all.

Now I'm in an argument with a youtube commenter there who is totally not racist...

pezus said: Now I'm in an argument with a youtube commenter there who is totally not racist...

What is the argument about Pezus?

spurgeonryan said: pezus said: Now I'm in an argument with a youtube commenter there who is totally not racist... What is the argument about Pezus?

Just check the video. It's right there.

The dangers of the internet Pezus ;)

Anyways, some of the arguments are just weird, these guys are bad, end of story!

Doesn't matter whether previous cases of either side did or didn't get the same attention, that's no excuse, things like this should be condemned!

lilbroex said: killerzX said: lilbroex said: thismeintiel said: lilbroex said: thismeintiel said: superchunk said: Has this been reported on ANY main news site? Of course not.  They're only looking for stories where a black individual gets hurt/killed by someone who may sorta kinda be white. You won't see the video in the title post on any major news sites for the same reasons that you don't see the one right above you on any major news sites or the thousands like it, because its not that big of a deal. You just want it to be far more than it is, so you can use it to make bitter comments against what you've chosen to view as unfair favoritism towards black people. Had that been a black tourist in a place where he wasn't the supposed to be, the same would have happened. Go to Eastern Europe and walk through a white ghetto filled with hoods and see if they will come up and give you a hug out of brotherly love. The guy wasn't attacked because he was white. The racist element is something you and the others in this thread have chosen to add at and for your own convenience. And I bet in the same breath you'll tell me Zimmerman was a racist.   Couldn't say, but I will say that had that been a white boy in a hoodie, he more than likely wouldn't have viewed him as suspicious, stalked him home and mudered him. yeah, thats why Zimmerman lead the charge to raise awareness and seek justice for a black teen that was attacked unjustly for just being black. thats also why zimmerman would give out free tutoring to black kids to help them out in school.   and you are already showing your incredible bias, just as the media has by being the judge jury and excecutioner. you say he murdered him, when so far all evidence shwon to us has made it very much seem self defense, from eye witnesses, to audio tapes, to video. None of it points to murder. I've never once looked at the media's opinion on the matter. Ever. I looked at the data and facts myself straight from the beginning and came to my own conclusion based purely on the facts. One of the key signs of a racist is stating that they have friend's of the group or that they have helped them before. That doesn't mean anything. I've helped inividuals I didn't like out all the time. Didn't get payed for it either. I did it because it was a good thing to do. I guess that since some of the pastors accused of molestation helped even more kids than they molested, that is completely absolves the them of all guilt and means that they aren't a child molestors when I use your logic. All evidence shows that there was no struggle whatsoever and his own call to police show that he "stalked" Travyon of his own volition despite being told not to by the police. The phone call analyzed by forsenic and technical exports verified that it was Trayvon screaming in the background as he was being attacked by Zimmerman  making Zimmerman the aggressor and nullifying any claim of defense. Video footage of Zimmerman afterwards show that he had not so much as a scuff mark on his shirt much less a bruise constituting an attack which, by the way, would have been Travyon's "right" to do as Zimmerman was the one who persued him, not the other way around.

so, he covered up for his racism, and racist driven attacks by being the first one to stand up against racism, demand action for the racial injustice that took place against a black kid, he helped out the black community by tutoring black kids, just so he could apear not racist when he plotted to kill a kid because he was black. Genius! no would would suspect him then, he must have plotted this for years.

as for the bolded, thats patently false. according to all evidence so far it was self defense. eye witness testimony shows treyvon on top of and attacking zimmerman, video tape shows defensive wounds on zimmerman such as lacerations on his head, audio tape of the neighbor has been verified to be zimmerman screamming for help. everything you just said was all of the falsely reported "facts" before they were corrected for the race baiting propaganda they are.