Badassbab said:
1 PPE Main Core 8 SPE Satellite Processors However 1 SPE is disabled to improve chip yields and 1 is reserved for the OS leaving 6 for gaming |
SPEs aren't cores.
Badassbab said:
1 PPE Main Core 8 SPE Satellite Processors However 1 SPE is disabled to improve chip yields and 1 is reserved for the OS leaving 6 for gaming |
SPEs aren't cores.
Darc Requiem said:
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Yes they are. They're just not completely general purpose.
Soleron said:
Yields. A sixteen core Power7 chip is enormous and would cost several hundred a chip wholesale. Two smaller chips can be a lot cheaper, see AMD Magny-Cours. |
My point is 3 fold.
A) 2 8 core Power7 CPu's would be far too hot, far too big and far too expensive.
B) A 16 core IBM chip already exists. The PowerPC A2.
C) If you have 2 CPU's you don't necessarily count the cores together and call it a X core CPU. You would say 2 X core CPU's. The fact they speak in singuarl with regard the CPU suggests it's not a multiple CPU configuration which again leads back to B.
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Soleron said:
Yes they are. They're just not completely general purpose. |
No, they are not cores. Cores operate independantly, SPE's are not independant and their code is in order execution. Think of them as a middle ground between a 2 thread operational CPU and a real second core.
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Darc Requiem said:
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So one cannot classify calling the PS3 variant of the Cell CPU as a multi core processor? I don't think so.
Badassbab said:
So one cannot classify calling the PS3 variant of the Cell CPU as a multi core processor? I don't think so. |
It can be classified as a multicore processor only so much that we don't have a seperate, more apt category to put it in.
The SPE's have some core like functions but they are not cores in the same sense that we calssify a CPU core.
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Viper1 said:
My point is 3 fold. A) 2 8 core Power7 CPu's would be far too hot, far too big and far too expensive. B) A 16 core IBM chip already exists. The PowerPC A2. C) If you have 2 CPU's you don't necessarily count the cores together and call it a X core CPU. You would say 2 X core CPU's. The fact they speak in singuarl with regard the CPU suggests it's not a multiple CPU configuration which again leads back to B. |
A) Yes.
B) OK, did not know. That does make a lot of sense. Two smaller 8 core non-Power7 chips are also an option, so it could be consistent with that.
C) Definitely wrong. Go and look at Intel Core 2 Quad "Kentsfield". That was two CPU dies connected on package and NO ONE ever called it "two CPUs".
Viper1 said:
No, they are not cores. Cores operate independantly, SPE's are not independant and their code is in order execution. Think of them as a middle ground between a 2 thread operational CPU and a real second core. |
"When we talk about cores we will always be using the most agreed upon definition of cores – the integer logic." - AMD on why Bulldozer has 16 cores not 8
The SPE can independently execute integer code. Therefore it is a core. Intel Atom is in-order and is considered a CPU still. The dependent part you are talking about is that the scheduling and memory management is done by the PPE, but it's done by a shared decoder in Larrabee and Bulldozer and those were cores as well.
Soundwave said: USC Fan at NeoGaf posted this, it seems to add up: I'm guessing the dual GPU thing is just for the dev kits though, they'll use something else for the final version. |
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