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Fez's dev to Japanese dev At GDC: "Your games just suck"...Japanese Developer Leaves GDC

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Well that's a huge generalisation, but as I don't have the entire convo and context I'm going to reserve judgement. I will say that the Japanese industry has suffered somewhat this generation. I think it's down to the extra competition from Western and PC devs entering the console space. Japanese developers have been forced into introducing with new ideas to compete, but unfortunately sometimes those ideas have the opposite effect; alienating traditional fans whilst not bringing in new audiences.

It doesn't help that a lot of PC based tech (Unreal engine, Cryengine, Source) that Western developers are familiar with but Eastern developer struggle with, have become established console development tools this gen.



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So wait a second? Nintendo alone puts out more AAA games in the same amount of time then EA, A/B, Ubi, T2 combined, and then we have Sony japan, Capcom, N/B, Konami, Atlus etc. I know that saleswise its not the dominant force what it used to be, but do you know why? because they know that the future of gaming is portable, and they actually knew this waaaay before the Iphone started the mass gaming craze.

And did anyone notice that his creation loooks pretty much like Super Paper Mario and Ecochrome ducttaped together? Im not buying this garbage...



I'm sorry that Japan is the only gaming industry that provides some variety in games and gives you new and unexpected things. If not being another generic FPS/TPS clone makes a game suck, then I'll gladly play bad games for the rest of my life.

GO JAPAN!!!!



 

This guy needs to be hauled to Japan and locked in a pillory. Every Eastern game developer can throw shit at him, and women and children can point and laugh. That would be fair.



It's hard to argue with him overall, that Japanese industry has taken a huge hit in my opinion. The sales aren't there, the praise isn't there, but the nostalgia is as strong as ever. It's unfortunate that Nintendo is really the only company to have a grasp on quality games and keep in line with consistency. I think he's being blunt because he feels like he has to, if you feel like the games suck overall, then you should say it.



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what a rash, over generalising and ignorant statement from someone that should know better really, as a developer he knows what work goes into making a game to throw a statement around like this he just comes across as arrogant.

I personally think the quality of american games is slipping and turning into uninspiring rehashes of previous glories but theres still quite a few gems of pure quality there, the same applies to Japan the quality isn't what it used to be but the great games are there (some quite possibly the best games of the generation) it isn't just Japans games that arn't up to scratch the general games industry at the moment is decending a steady slope and it's getting harder to find the real quality amongst the bloated review systems and publisher pandering that exists now. Originality seems to be frowned upon and anything that doesn't tick the "basics" in terms of what reviewers expect is punishing the industry.

anyway on topic hope this guy doesn't get offered the oppertunity to attend this kind of conference again he's an embarressment to the industry



T.Rexington said:
It's hard to argue with him overall, that Japanese industry has taken a huge hit in my opinion. The sales aren't there, the praise isn't there, but the nostalgia is as strong as ever. It's unfortunate that Nintendo is really the only company to have a grasp on quality games and keep in line with consistency. I think he's being blunt because he feels like he has to, if you feel like the games suck overall, then you should say it.


I could argue all day, it's his opinion fine but to bluntly throw that out there isn't constructive, Japan has had a decline in it's software sales but the quality is still there if you want to find it. If he feels so strongly about all this and i would say he does with a statement like that then he should explain himself and offer advice to where he thinks they've gone wrong not just tell them there crap



Sounds like a total douche to me. But if the question is "are Japanese games as good as they used to be?" then the honest answer is no. I love Japanese games (look at avatar), jrpg's and fighting games then i'm all over it!

BUT

Some of them have been a huge let down. Square Enix have struggled this gen to capture their form of the previous gen. Western devs have definatly started to takeover in those genres. Games like Skyrim/Fallout/Mass Effect etc are by far better rpg's then what has been released in Japan.

Imagine if Square Enix released a third person Final Fantasy in the style of Skyrim. A fully interactive open world. Then imagine they added in a good/bad system that changes the world like in Mass Effect. That game would be epic!

But the games just seem so far away from that. They seem stuck in their ways. They have not evolved.

So while the guy is a complete twat and should be shot I do think that if the guy can't handle criticism then maybe shouldn't be in a place like that to begin with. If you ask someone that question then you have to be prepared for someone having a negative view.



xKratosWitAGunx said:
I hope people take this into account when deciding to purchase his game. I would never give my money to someone who puts down someones work. The Japanese Dev probably put a lot of effort into it. Jerk!

I'm curious to see how often your actions contradict this statement.  Sony, MS, Ninty, etc. have all slandered another's work at some point in time.



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They suck, because many are trying to follow Western footsteps, and they lose their magic, while not capturing the (not as interesting) western appeal.