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What old franchise should Nintendo revive first on the Wii U?

Star Fox 220 47.31%
 
F-Zero 110 23.66%
 
Wave Race 29 6.24%
 
Top-Down Zelda 55 11.83%
 
Show me the results. 28 6.02%
 
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DanneSandin on 29 November 2012
kain_kusanagi said:
I don't think 3rd party devs fail Nintendo. I think they try, fail and give up.

I'm part of the problem. For my Nintendo systems I buy mostly Nintendo 1st games, mainly Mario, Zelda and Metroid. I buy a few3rd party exclusives, but for me gaming systems by Nintendo are Nintendo game boxes. When I buy a Wii U it will be for Mario, Zelda and/or Metroid just like how I buy Xbox for Halo and Playstation for Team Ico games.

Like I said I'm part of the problem, but it's the millions like me that have convinced 3rd parties to risk less on Nintendo consoles.

I'm sure 3rd parties looked at the Wii sales and giant userbase and thought it would be the land of milk and honey, but instead they got lost in the desert. They watched their games die on Nintendo machines while Nintendo sold their games at record numbers for years and years. Mario Kart Wii continues to sell well and has barely dropped from it's launch price. 3rd party games don't sell and then they go to bargain bins and don't sell.

I'm not really sure how Nintendo can fix this. Their fans, me included, love their games. They make plenty of them and that's what we want. Nintendo fans get what they are craving for direction from Nintendo. I guess 3rd parties need to convince non-Nintendo fans to buy Wii U for their games instead of Nintendo games. But so long as Nintendo games dominate all that's left is crumbs for others. I can't really blame 3rd parties for not investing tons of cash and their best talent while the risk is so high.

Question is though, whether or not you truly are the problem. In this day and age when 3rd parties goes multiplat with almost every release, isn't it Nintendo's fault for not making a powerful enough console that can run 3rd party games as well? What would have happened if you actually could have played Skyrim or Batman on Wii? Yes, perhaps you would have wanted a different controller, but that could easily have been bought...

I think the fault lies with Nintendo for not making the Wii strong enough, and they could yet again fail to attract 3rd parties if the Wii U don't hold up against PS720...



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kain_kusanagi on 29 November 2012
DanneSandin said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I don't think 3rd party devs fail Nintendo. I think they try, fail and give up.

I'm part of the problem. For my Nintendo systems I buy mostly Nintendo 1st games, mainly Mario, Zelda and Metroid. I buy a few3rd party exclusives, but for me gaming systems by Nintendo are Nintendo game boxes. When I buy a Wii U it will be for Mario, Zelda and/or Metroid just like how I buy Xbox for Halo and Playstation for Team Ico games.

Like I said I'm part of the problem, but it's the millions like me that have convinced 3rd parties to risk less on Nintendo consoles.

I'm sure 3rd parties looked at the Wii sales and giant userbase and thought it would be the land of milk and honey, but instead they got lost in the desert. They watched their games die on Nintendo machines while Nintendo sold their games at record numbers for years and years. Mario Kart Wii continues to sell well and has barely dropped from it's launch price. 3rd party games don't sell and then they go to bargain bins and don't sell.

I'm not really sure how Nintendo can fix this. Their fans, me included, love their games. They make plenty of them and that's what we want. Nintendo fans get what they are craving for direction from Nintendo. I guess 3rd parties need to convince non-Nintendo fans to buy Wii U for their games instead of Nintendo games. But so long as Nintendo games dominate all that's left is crumbs for others. I can't really blame 3rd parties for not investing tons of cash and their best talent while the risk is so high.

Question is though, whether or not you truly are the problem. In this day and age when 3rd parties goes multiplat with almost every release, isn't it Nintendo's fault for not making a powerful enough console that can run 3rd party games as well? What would have happened if you actually could have played Skyrim or Batman on Wii? Yes, perhaps you would have wanted a different controller, but that could easily have been bought...

I think the fault lies with Nintendo for not making the Wii strong enough, and they could yet again fail to attract 3rd parties if the Wii U don't hold up against PS720...

Certaily, more power is never a bad thing and if the Wii had been as powerfull as the PS360 than it would have gotten all the ports and they probably would have sold. While I do agree with that, I also am of the personal opinion that graphics aren't as important as art design. Mario, Zelda, and Metroid all look great on the Wii. Sure it was in SD and I would loved for it to have been in HD, but when I was enjoying them it never mattered.

Back when the Gamecube, PS2, and Xbox got most of the same 3rd party games. I bought which ever 3rd party port seemed best for each console. I bought shooters on the Xbox, platformers and adventure games on the Gamecube, and RPGs and racing games on the PS2. But those 3rd party games were rare for me. I mostly bought 1st party stuff like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Halo, Fable, Mech Assault, Ico, Ratch&Clank, etc. This gen I've bought a lot more 3rd party games, but not so much on the Wii and it had a ton. The few Wii 3rd party games i do have are mostly Sega exclusives and the Resident Evil light gun games. I'm a sucker for light gun shooters.



kain_kusanagi on 29 November 2012
Roma said:
Kyuubi Ricky SSJ2 said:

 

This guy is literally using his Wii U as a portable console:

 

ha! it's a good thing it is small! would like to see the other two companies do what Nintendoes with the power they are rumored to be packing! who would want to a PS360 sized console on the train plus a screen?

I love it! Nintendo should sell a beefy battery and market it for travel.



DanneSandin on 29 November 2012
kain_kusanagi said:
DanneSandin said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I don't think 3rd party devs fail Nintendo. I think they try, fail and give up.

I'm part of the problem. For my Nintendo systems I buy mostly Nintendo 1st games, mainly Mario, Zelda and Metroid. I buy a few3rd party exclusives, but for me gaming systems by Nintendo are Nintendo game boxes. When I buy a Wii U it will be for Mario, Zelda and/or Metroid just like how I buy Xbox for Halo and Playstation for Team Ico games.

Like I said I'm part of the problem, but it's the millions like me that have convinced 3rd parties to risk less on Nintendo consoles.

I'm sure 3rd parties looked at the Wii sales and giant userbase and thought it would be the land of milk and honey, but instead they got lost in the desert. They watched their games die on Nintendo machines while Nintendo sold their games at record numbers for years and years. Mario Kart Wii continues to sell well and has barely dropped from it's launch price. 3rd party games don't sell and then they go to bargain bins and don't sell.

I'm not really sure how Nintendo can fix this. Their fans, me included, love their games. They make plenty of them and that's what we want. Nintendo fans get what they are craving for direction from Nintendo. I guess 3rd parties need to convince non-Nintendo fans to buy Wii U for their games instead of Nintendo games. But so long as Nintendo games dominate all that's left is crumbs for others. I can't really blame 3rd parties for not investing tons of cash and their best talent while the risk is so high.

Question is though, whether or not you truly are the problem. In this day and age when 3rd parties goes multiplat with almost every release, isn't it Nintendo's fault for not making a powerful enough console that can run 3rd party games as well? What would have happened if you actually could have played Skyrim or Batman on Wii? Yes, perhaps you would have wanted a different controller, but that could easily have been bought...

I think the fault lies with Nintendo for not making the Wii strong enough, and they could yet again fail to attract 3rd parties if the Wii U don't hold up against PS720...

Certaily, more power is never a bad thing and if the Wii had been as powerfull as the PS360 than it would have gotten all the ports and they probably would have sold. While I do agree with that, I also am of the personal opinion that graphics aren't as important as art design. Mario, Zelda, and Metroid all look great on the Wii. Sure it was in SD and I would loved for it to have been in HD, but when I was enjoying them it never mattered.

Back when the Gamecube, PS2, and Xbox got most of the same 3rd party games. I bought which ever 3rd party port seemed best for each console. I bought shooters on the Xbox, platformers and adventure games on the Gamecube, and RPGs and racing games on the PS2. But those 3rd party games were rare for me. I mostly bought 1st party stuff like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Halo, Fable, Mech Assault, Ico, Ratch&Clank, etc. This gen I've bought a lot more 3rd party games, but not so much on the Wii and it had a ton. The few Wii 3rd party games i do have are mostly Sega exclusives and the Resident Evil light gun games. I'm a sucker for light gun shooters.

I agree 100% that art style is much more important than graphics, and that's one of the reasons why I like Nintendo, and think that Uncharted and Batman and lots of other games are quite... generic. But had Wii had HD I'm sure PS360 would have sold less than what they currently have, and Wii could have sold even more.

It's a shame that Nintendo really haven't realized this themself...



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pimpcoop on 29 November 2012
kain_kusanagi said:
I don't think 3rd party devs fail Nintendo. I think they try, fail and give up.

I'm part of the problem. For my Nintendo systems I buy mostly Nintendo 1st games, mainly Mario, Zelda and Metroid. I buy a few3rd party exclusives, but for me gaming systems by Nintendo are Nintendo game boxes. When I buy a Wii U it will be for Mario, Zelda and/or Metroid just like how I buy Xbox for Halo and Playstation for Team Ico games.

Like I said I'm part of the problem, but it's the millions like me that have convinced 3rd parties to risk less on Nintendo consoles.

I'm sure 3rd parties looked at the Wii sales and giant userbase and thought it would be the land of milk and honey, but instead they got lost in the desert. They watched their games die on Nintendo machines while Nintendo sold their games at record numbers for years and years. Mario Kart Wii continues to sell well and has barely dropped from it's launch price. 3rd party games don't sell and then they go to bargain bins and don't sell.

I'm not really sure how Nintendo can fix this. Their fans, me included, love their games. They make plenty of them and that's what we want. Nintendo fans get what they are craving for direction from Nintendo. I guess 3rd parties need to convince non-Nintendo fans to buy Wii U for their games instead of Nintendo games. But so long as Nintendo games dominate all that's left is crumbs for others. I can't really blame 3rd parties for not investing tons of cash and their best talent while the risk is so high.


Your still missing the bigger picture. If you look at the Wii libray of games that third parties put that 80 percent is crap. Most of the games are not worth buying unless your a little tween kid. Even the good games were still not like OMG I have to own type games. They still manged to fail hard. There were no third party games like God of War,Gears of War, or Forza Horizon, Battlefield ect.. Those games are the type were people really want them. Not like people can say if it goes down in price I will maybe pick them up. That is and was the problem with the Wii and third parties. We got either shitty ports or really bad exicuted attempts at third party games that were trying to be clones of other games.



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kain_kusanagi on 29 November 2012
pimpcoop said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I don't think 3rd party devs fail Nintendo. I think they try, fail and give up.

I'm part of the problem. For my Nintendo systems I buy mostly Nintendo 1st games, mainly Mario, Zelda and Metroid. I buy a few3rd party exclusives, but for me gaming systems by Nintendo are Nintendo game boxes. When I buy a Wii U it will be for Mario, Zelda and/or Metroid just like how I buy Xbox for Halo and Playstation for Team Ico games.

Like I said I'm part of the problem, but it's the millions like me that have convinced 3rd parties to risk less on Nintendo consoles.

I'm sure 3rd parties looked at the Wii sales and giant userbase and thought it would be the land of milk and honey, but instead they got lost in the desert. They watched their games die on Nintendo machines while Nintendo sold their games at record numbers for years and years. Mario Kart Wii continues to sell well and has barely dropped from it's launch price. 3rd party games don't sell and then they go to bargain bins and don't sell.

I'm not really sure how Nintendo can fix this. Their fans, me included, love their games. They make plenty of them and that's what we want. Nintendo fans get what they are craving for direction from Nintendo. I guess 3rd parties need to convince non-Nintendo fans to buy Wii U for their games instead of Nintendo games. But so long as Nintendo games dominate all that's left is crumbs for others. I can't really blame 3rd parties for not investing tons of cash and their best talent while the risk is so high.


Your still missing the bigger picture. If you look at the Wii libray of games that third parties put that 80 percent is crap. Most of the games are not worth buying unless your a little tween kid. Even the good games were still not like OMG I have to own type games. They still manged to fail hard. There were no third party games like God of War,Gears of War, or Forza Horizon, Battlefield ect.. Those games are the type were people really want them. Not like people can say if it goes down in price I will maybe pick them up. That is and was the problem with the Wii and third parties. We got either shitty ports or really bad exicuted attempts at third party games that were trying to be clones of other games.

The reason that "80%" of the Wii Library is "crap" for "little tween kids" is because 80% of Wii owners are "tween kids". Publishers aren't going to make AAA games for 20% of the userbase when they can make shovelware for nothing and sell it to 80%.

The Wii didn't have the types of games you mentioned because the Wii couldn't handle them. That's why ports of games like COD were so gimped.



Veknoid_Outcast on 29 November 2012
kain_kusanagi said:
pimpcoop said:
kain_kusanagi said:
I don't think 3rd party devs fail Nintendo. I think they try, fail and give up.

I'm part of the problem. For my Nintendo systems I buy mostly Nintendo 1st games, mainly Mario, Zelda and Metroid. I buy a few3rd party exclusives, but for me gaming systems by Nintendo are Nintendo game boxes. When I buy a Wii U it will be for Mario, Zelda and/or Metroid just like how I buy Xbox for Halo and Playstation for Team Ico games.

Like I said I'm part of the problem, but it's the millions like me that have convinced 3rd parties to risk less on Nintendo consoles.

I'm sure 3rd parties looked at the Wii sales and giant userbase and thought it would be the land of milk and honey, but instead they got lost in the desert. They watched their games die on Nintendo machines while Nintendo sold their games at record numbers for years and years. Mario Kart Wii continues to sell well and has barely dropped from it's launch price. 3rd party games don't sell and then they go to bargain bins and don't sell.

I'm not really sure how Nintendo can fix this. Their fans, me included, love their games. They make plenty of them and that's what we want. Nintendo fans get what they are craving for direction from Nintendo. I guess 3rd parties need to convince non-Nintendo fans to buy Wii U for their games instead of Nintendo games. But so long as Nintendo games dominate all that's left is crumbs for others. I can't really blame 3rd parties for not investing tons of cash and their best talent while the risk is so high.


Your still missing the bigger picture. If you look at the Wii libray of games that third parties put that 80 percent is crap. Most of the games are not worth buying unless your a little tween kid. Even the good games were still not like OMG I have to own type games. They still manged to fail hard. There were no third party games like God of War,Gears of War, or Forza Horizon, Battlefield ect.. Those games are the type were people really want them. Not like people can say if it goes down in price I will maybe pick them up. That is and was the problem with the Wii and third parties. We got either shitty ports or really bad exicuted attempts at third party games that were trying to be clones of other games.

The reason that "80%" of the Wii Library is "crap" for "little tween kids" is because 80% of Wii owners are "tween kids". Publishers aren't going to make AAA games for 20% of the userbase when they can make shovelware for nothing and sell it to 80%.

The Wii didn't have the types of games you mentioned because the Wii couldn't handle them. That's why ports of games like COD were so gimped.

Kain, your first post was tremendous, but this most recent one is just reinforcing a bad stereotype. It's not fair to depict 80% of Wii owners as prepubescent kids.



DélioPT on 29 November 2012
DanneSandin said:
DélioPT said:
Now, we will probably have a new Nintendo Direct before the year is over. Do you guys think Nintendo will reveal a new game for Wii U or 3DS? Crossing my fingers for new Wii U game!
I won`t even ask for much: GTA V and Watch Dogs will be enough! :D

I hope so! We have some insight of titles coming next year, but there really isn't any "big" games that we know of. GTA5 would be great to have! I'm not playing that franchise myself, but it's a must have if you wanna be seen as a hardcore console. What I'm hoping for for the next e3: GTA5 and some awesome footage from Bayo2 that puts all critics to shame...

I`m nor interested in playing GTA because of all the violence. I think the game looks great, to be honest, but it`s my thing. I`m more interested in Lego City! :)

I think that just the news of it coming to Wii U will shake things up.
I hope Bayonetta 2 is even better tha the first. Played the demo of the first one and kinda liked it.

Let`s hope the next Nintendo Direct brings some good news!



DanneSandin on 29 November 2012
DélioPT said:
DanneSandin said:
DélioPT said:
Now, we will probably have a new Nintendo Direct before the year is over. Do you guys think Nintendo will reveal a new game for Wii U or 3DS? Crossing my fingers for new Wii U game!
I won`t even ask for much: GTA V and Watch Dogs will be enough! :D

I hope so! We have some insight of titles coming next year, but there really isn't any "big" games that we know of. GTA5 would be great to have! I'm not playing that franchise myself, but it's a must have if you wanna be seen as a hardcore console. What I'm hoping for for the next e3: GTA5 and some awesome footage from Bayo2 that puts all critics to shame...

I`m nor interested in playing GTA because of all the violence. I think the game looks great, to be honest, but it`s my thing. I`m more interested in Lego City! :)

I think that just the news of it coming to Wii U will shake things up.
I hope Bayonetta 2 is even better tha the first. Played the demo of the first one and kinda liked it.

Let`s hope the next Nintendo Direct brings some good news!

I haven't played a GTA since 3 :P and the one I played the most is 2 ^^ But it would be great to have it in the Wii U library!

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the next Direct!!



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DélioPT on 29 November 2012
DanneSandin said:
DélioPT said:
DanneSandin said:
DélioPT said:
Now, we will probably have a new Nintendo Direct before the year is over. Do you guys think Nintendo will reveal a new game for Wii U or 3DS? Crossing my fingers for new Wii U game!
I won`t even ask for much: GTA V and Watch Dogs will be enough! :D

I hope so! We have some insight of titles coming next year, but there really isn't any "big" games that we know of. GTA5 would be great to have! I'm not playing that franchise myself, but it's a must have if you wanna be seen as a hardcore console. What I'm hoping for for the next e3: GTA5 and some awesome footage from Bayo2 that puts all critics to shame...

I`m nor interested in playing GTA because of all the violence. I think the game looks great, to be honest, but it`s my thing. I`m more interested in Lego City! :)

I think that just the news of it coming to Wii U will shake things up.
I hope Bayonetta 2 is even better tha the first. Played the demo of the first one and kinda liked it.

Let`s hope the next Nintendo Direct brings some good news!

I haven't played a GTA since 3 :P and the one I played the most is 2 ^^ But it would be great to have it in the Wii U library!

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the next Direct!!

It would mean a lot for Wii U`s library!
I only played the first on PC and even then it was only a demo. It was pretty good! Never bothered looking at the rest of the games, though.

I`m expecting a Christmas present for Mr. Iwata! :D