That's funny stuff, I'm sure they don't care that much then.


Slimebeast said:
lol you are like 20, you can't have pirated as long as I have. |
Lägg ner nu du vet att jag e 38, vi har snackat med varann innan.
it´s a myth because you dont want the to be true, they studies show some of the picture of piracy.
In poor countries and where the legal means to get the material there will be more piracy and less return from it overall.
In richer countries and where availability isnt a problem it actuall increases the sales the material that is good in the consumer eyes and diminishing on products the consumer rejects.
Whats a myth is all those looses and that the get nothing in return from the consumer is what is the myth and industry propaganda.
There are big benefts to be made through piracy for companies but the refuse it because they want to be able to sell you crap for full price.
Dowloading is a consumer tool that helps the consumer decide the quality of the product and the big companies dont want you to have that kind of qulity controll and the refuse to adapt to the new buisnessmodel that has come through the internet called availability and ease of use,
They have to adapt or they will suffer.
Here is a link to explain a little of piracy in poorer countries.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/17/us-internet-piracy-emergingeurope-idUSTRE81G1VL20120217
Vitezslav, a 31-year-old Czech, is one of many people in the European Union's emerging east whose opposition to a new anti-pirating pact culminated this month in huge protests across the bloc that may now torpedo the treaty.
But far from the clichéd image of an impoverished eastern European who just wants to rip movies and songs for free, the young commodities trader is a savvy, modern media consumer who actually wants to pay for what he watches.
It is all about choice - or rather a lack of it.
Because he is unable to tap the cheap, instant access to digital media available through services like Netflix in more developed states, he pays 250 Czech crowns ($13) a month to ulozto.cz, a site that offers fast download rates of pirated material.
"People here got stuck on this site because there was no other provider where we could download movies. So we got used to it, and now we pay for higher download rates," said Vitezslav, who did not want to be identified by his last name.
"But if there was another legal service that would be as easy, I would do it. I pay for higher download rates, so why wouldn't I pay for something legal?"
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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.
| usrevenge said: pirate game does it play? do i like it? if yes to both buy game. when the entertainment industry understands that this is the process we will be good. |
play demo
does it play? do i like it?
if yes to both buy game
when the pirates understand they only make excuses for wanting shit for free then we will be good
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
- George Orwell, ‘1984’
| crissindahouse said: all i know is that cinemas in germany are dying :( many more people just downlaod the movie nowadays and watch it on the big flat tv. the first years of illegal downlaods the movies had a bad quality and no one had a great tv but nowadays the movies have good quality and the tv's are so huge that many don't care anymore to go to the cinema here. i like cinema so that makes me sad :( |
sorry, i couldn't resist 

“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
- George Orwell, ‘1984’
Porcupine_I said:
does it play? do i like it? if yes to both buy game when the pirates understand they only make excuses for wanting shit for free then we will be good |
You are the only one making excuses so you can blame pirates for all shit the industry is to blame.
Demo´s arent everywhere and with every game and even then it´s a demo of the best part of the game just to make you buy it, alittle like those movie commercials that are all action but when you actually see the movie it+s shit and that action you saw lsted for 10 sec in one scene.
There is nothing you can compare to this consumer tool and all attempts are just excuses so the industry can make more money selling us shit.
Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello" R.I.P AC Milan
In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.
If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh
Is marijuana the best medicine?
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.
this whole [piracy argument comes down to pirates trying to justify themselves and non pirates trying to villify pirates. even this dev is saying you cant stop it so theres no point in arguing. i say, as a music pirate, i have no justification for it it is just free and easy. if pirqates stop saaying we help the industry more or blah blah blah there would be no arguing, just pirate if youre going to and shut up about it
Everyday I'm hustlin'.
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| DKHustlin said: this whole [piracy argument comes down to pirates trying to justify themselves and non pirates trying to villify pirates. even this dev is saying you cant stop it so theres no point in arguing. i say, as a music pirate, i have no justification for it it is just free and easy. if pirqates stop saaying we help the industry more or blah blah blah there would be no arguing, just pirate if youre going to and shut up about it |
There are more kinds of pirates look a few posts up on one of myt posts taling about this.
There is no justification here it´s truth, if you are a pirate and just because you can download and dont support the songs,movies or games that you really like and normaly would have bought then you are the one that should shupt up about it.
Only bigtime idiot assholes pirate stuff without spporting their company and there is 2 of you in this thread that actually coness to only download ond no support.
As for the undelined part here you go:
A study commissioned by the Swiss government has found that the country's current piracy laws, which allow downloading of stuff for "personal use", should stay. Because they actually encourage people to buy more stuff.
Those downloading music were led to buy more music, and those downloading games were also found to actually be the biggest purchasers of games, etc.
http://kotaku.com/5864996/these-guys-think-piracy-is-ok-because-it-leads-to-sales
The study, commissioned by an unnamed company and performed by the GfK Group, found that users of pirate sites purchase a good deal of content legally, reports German technology site Telepolis.
Users of pirate sites on average buy more media content than those who do not use such sites, according to the study, validating the position that many supporters of these sites take that most use it as a way to preview content before they actually purchase it.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/236214/study_casts_pirate_site_users_in_good_light.html
Despite the claims of the MPAA and other supporters of SOPA and PIPA, file-sharing does not negatively impact box office sales in the U.S., according to a new study conducted by economists from Wellesley College and the University of Minnesota.
The study found that longer gaps between a movie’s release in America and its release in foreign countries led to increased piracy in those countries, and correspondingly lower box office sales. The study estimates that pre-release piracy impacted foreign box office sales by as much as 7%
In the U.S., however, box office sales were not impacted by piracy at all. The study concludes that the impact of piracy is driven primarily by the lack of legal availability of content in foreign markets.
http://www.webpronews.com/study-piracy-does-not-harm-u-s-box-office-sales-2012-02
Notice this a respected instotutions and educated people trying to find out the real effects of piracy and not like the industry to put a pricetag on every download and file it like a loss.
There is and will always be people the will use the rules and not give anything back but as theese studies show there are also benefits to be had and companies have to look at both and figure a buisnessmodell somewhere in between.
Downloading is a consumer tool the companies dont want you to have so they can sell you shit over and over again with a pretty cover.
Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello" R.I.P AC Milan
In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.
If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh
Is marijuana the best medicine?
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.
vaio said:
You are the only one making excuses so you can blame pirates for all shit the industry is to blame. Demo´s arent everywhere and with every game and even then it´s a demo of the best part of the game just to make you buy it, alittle like those movie commercials that are all action but when you actually see the movie it+s shit and that action you saw lsted for 10 sec in one scene. There is nothing you can compare to this consumer tool and all attempts are just excuses so the industry can make more money selling us shit. |
and where does your money come from?
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
- George Orwell, ‘1984’
Porcupine_I said:
and where does your money come from? |
What does that have to do with the subject? why go off topic?
Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello" R.I.P AC Milan
In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.
If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh
Is marijuana the best medicine?
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.
vaio said:
What does that have to do with the subject? why go off topic? |
well, it's what the subject is all about, money, isn't it? the money the industry wants you to buy their shit with. where does yours come from? it's an important question when you think about it.
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
- George Orwell, ‘1984’