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Forums - Sony Discussion - Sony's Q3 FY2011 Earnings (2 billion loss - 6.5m PS3 / 2.4m PSP / 0.9m PS2)

This is why the 50 $/€ cut was a bad move. Almost 400 million $ lost in revenue and profit, when Sony needs it most.



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bmmb1 said:
cyberninja45 said:

One question regarding these massive loss reports from Japanese companies: Are they really losing this amount of money or does just look that way when they count (not actually convert) all the foreign revenue to yet?  Their foreign revenue is counted as yen just for these reports right?

They are really losing money (keep in mind that Nintendo actually profited this Q3, they do expect though to lose again considerably Q4).

Also, in before "but Sony are doing well in the gaming division", see article (6) below:

 

"Consumer Products & Services

Operating loss of 85.7 billion yen (1,099 million U.S. dollars) was recorded, compared to operating income of 63.5 billion yen in the same quarter of the previous fiscal year. This was primarily due to

(1) deterioration in equity in net income (loss) of affiliated companies,

(2) as well as a decrease in gross profit due to lower sales and deterioration in the cost of sales ratio, partially offset by a decrease in selling, general and administrative expenses.

(3) In the current quarter, Sony recorded an impairment loss of 63.4 billion yen (813 million U.S. dollars) on its shares of S-LCD to equity in net loss of affiliated companies, which is included in the CPS segment operating loss. In January 2012, Sony sold all of its shares of S-LCD to Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. for a sale price of 1.07 trillion
Korean Won (72.3 billion yen as of the sale date).

(4) Restructuring charges of 1.0 billion yen (13 million U.S. dollars) were recorded in the current quarter, compared to 3.6 billion yen in the same quarter of the previous fiscal
year.

Categories contributing to the deterioration in operating results (excluding restructuring charges and the impairment loss related to S-LCD mentioned above) include

(5) LCD televisions, reflecting a decline in unit selling prices that exceeded cost and expense reductions,

(6) and the game business, reflecting higher marketing costs to promote network service platforms and lower sales of PlayStation®3 hardware due to a strategic price reduction.

(7) Operating loss includes additional LCD panel related expenses resulting from low capacity utilization of S-LCD

(8) as well as the above-mentioned asset impairment of 2.1 billion yen (27 million U.S. dollars) associated with LCD television assets."

I talking about losses due to exchange-rate/appreciating yen. I am assuming they just report all their foreign earnings in yen (they don't physically convert it, or most of it) and it just looks like a bigger mess than it really is.



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Kynes said:
This is why the 50 $/€ cut was a bad move. Almost 400 million $ lost in revenue and profit, when Sony needs it most.

They're going to have to do the same 'strategic' move in September this year again to face WIiU, Possible $99 Wii but most certaintly a cheaper 360.

But then they didn't have anything to spur on growth like MS has with Kinect so I guess it was their last option. I don't get this need for companies to be shipping a certaint level of products, when you're in this sttae surely profitability should be your sole focus on every decision?!



 

kumagawa said:
Sony still have over $10 billion in cash so they can continue losing $1 billion+ a quarter for another 18 months LOL.

R.I.P Sony

4 quarters in a year - no idea what calculations you were up to with that.



Kynes said:
This is why the 50 $/€ cut was a bad move. Almost 400 million $ lost in revenue and profit, when Sony needs it most.


Maybe - sales obviously wouldn't have been as high, who knows how horrid the numbers without a price could have been.



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Wow...2 BILLION...



2.8b loss for the year is ... scary. Kowen do you know the full breakdown of what Sony has left cash wise now?

Their cash was at 7.58b before this Q.



 



They need to ditch their TV division fast.

With these losses and a further 800m loss next Q do they run the risk of being downgraded further?



 

So Sony was lying again about their numbers, this time saying they are on track to reach 15m forecast for 2011...