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Gamerace on 09 January 2008

@TWRoO - I'm not disagreeing with you, but we already have that game coming. However, SW The Force Unleashed does not look to be offering the degree of online play that SW:DF series did. Also I don't think it'll have 1:1 in regular gameplay, as it's difficult to animate a character when the player has 1:1 control of the arms but not the body. This is being developed by a minor developer not LucasArts and is a PS2/Wii edition so my expectations for it are quite low at this point. Hopefully LucasArts will ensure it's given proper care because it could be immense on Wii if done right.

@Mummelman - Your right Wii can't handle Oblivion's graphic level and depth of field, but....

@Chrizum - Your more right. There's lots of games like this out currently that could easily run Wii (M&M:Dark Messiah springs to mind)



 

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kitler53 on 09 January 2008

RTS - an absolute must for the wii

dual wielded wii motes - considering the sales of wiiplay you know everyone has a second controller.

myst style exploration puzzle game

World of warcraft - okay, not the full mmo part of it but i really liked playing the game. a 3rd person action based game would be awesome. use the nun chuck for the asdw movement controls - an action bar across the bottom of the screen for your 20 or so spells that you use the pointer to click your spell. highly complex and deep combat without the highly complex controls. hell, the wii has online - make it an mmo.



Darc Requiem on 09 January 2008

Mummelman quit the semantics. Oblivion and Morrowind are the same type of game. He was clearly referencing Oblivion because it has had more commercial success with console gamers. No where did he say Oblivion would run on the Wii at the same level of graphical brilliance as its PC, 360 , or PS3 counterparts. He was clearly saying that devs should make first/third person RPG in the vein of Oblivion.



Galaki on 09 January 2008

Devs should definitely brainstorm on what games to make that combine the Wiimote, chuk and Board. Be the first and it'll sell through the roof.



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Mummelmann on 09 January 2008
Gamerace said:
@TWRoO - I'm not disagreeing with you, but we already have that game coming. However, SW The Force Unleashed does not look to be offering the degree of online play that SW:DF series did. Also I don't think it'll have 1:1 in regular gameplay, as it's difficult to animate a character when the player has 1:1 control of the arms but not the body. This is being developed by a minor developer not LucasArts and is a PS2/Wii edition so my expectations for it are quite low at this point. Hopefully LucasArts will ensure it's given proper care because it could be immense on Wii if done right.

@Mummelman - Your right Wii can't handle Oblivion's graphic level and depth of field, but....

@Chrizum - Your more right. There's lots of games like this out currently that could easily run Wii (M&M:Dark Messiah springs to mind)

 Dark Messiah is an entirely different game alltogether, have yuo played both? And Dark Messiah also has some pretty steep system req's, employing many of the same effects as Oblivion. It's a modified version of Valve's Source Engine, and takes a PC almost twice the power to run properly despite it having no huge outdoor areas like HL2 did. 

Dark Messiah is a First Person Adventure game with RPG elements, while Oblivion is a an Action RPG with a sandbox environment, hardly comparable imo. 



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Mummelmann on 09 January 2008
Darc Requiem said:
Mummelman quit the semantics. Oblivion and Morrowind are the same type of game. He was clearly referencing Oblivion because it has had more commercial success with console gamers. No where did he say Oblivion would run on the Wii at the same level of graphical brilliance as its PC, 360 , or PS3 counterparts. He was clearly saying that devs should make first/third person RPG in the vein of Oblivion.

 Using faulty comparisons and lackluster facts. That's what set me off, I'm sorry if people are offended because I'm a geek...



Chrizum on 09 January 2008
Mummelmann said:
Darc Requiem said:
Mummelman quit the semantics. Oblivion and Morrowind are the same type of game. He was clearly referencing Oblivion because it has had more commercial success with console gamers. No where did he say Oblivion would run on the Wii at the same level of graphical brilliance as its PC, 360 , or PS3 counterparts. He was clearly saying that devs should make first/third person RPG in the vein of Oblivion.

Using faulty comparisons and lackluster facts. That's what set me off, I'm sorry if people are offended because I'm a geek...


I don't feel offended, you're just flat out wrong.



kitler53 on 09 January 2008
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 What you should say is; Morrowind type games will work on Wii, and yes they will.

Oblivion and Morrowind is more different than most people know. Including you, it seems, calling Oblivion a smaller and prettier and Morrowind is very faulty. I got your point, but your comparisons were irrelevant in any case since this gen is very different from the last. Gothic is also quite different from Morrowind in its own sense, I've played them both to death!

If you were to make a 16 square mile game on the Wii, you'd have to use cel-shading (Windwaker) or some other old fashioned visual instrument to make it work at all, and I just don't see any 3rd party developer bothering to do that. One can't expect huge and processive demanding titles on the Wii, that is a sad fact one has to get used to if you own it. Like I said; 3rd parties will keep on spewing out half-assed and cheap games just to make quick money, rather than concoct immersive, deep visually and audiovisally impressive titles (you could hope for original and sound art direction, however). On a rare occassion, a game that almost meet those criteria will arrive, but they'll be extremely sparse.

What you see is what you get, and that applies to the Wii, the 360 and the PS3 equally. 


 umm...why couldn't the wii have a 16-square mile game?  Oblivion was on the xbox 360.  xbox 360 uses a dvd drive.  wii uses a dvd drive.  wii doesn't output as high end graphics as the 360 so to make the same world would take less space since it would be less detailed. 

the wii is capable of a lot more than you give it credit.  just because most 3rd party software was highly rushed shovelware doesn't mean the wii can't do great things.   



endurance on 09 January 2008
Mummelmann said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Create games that are better than Nintendo's

 That's a tall order!


ubisoft said they will create games that will match nintys qualty

Mummelmann on 09 January 2008
Chrizum said:
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Darc Requiem said:
Mummelman quit the semantics. Oblivion and Morrowind are the same type of game. He was clearly referencing Oblivion because it has had more commercial success with console gamers. No where did he say Oblivion would run on the Wii at the same level of graphical brilliance as its PC, 360 , or PS3 counterparts. He was clearly saying that devs should make first/third person RPG in the vein of Oblivion.

Using faulty comparisons and lackluster facts. That's what set me off, I'm sorry if people are offended because I'm a geek...


I don't feel offended, you're just flat out wrong.


 About what exactly? Say "Morrowind" and I'm with you, say "Oblivion" and I'm not, that's not hard. Same genre, very different game.