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Ajescent on 20 January 2012
Jay520 said:
Ajescent said:
So in summary of the "quality/quantity" arguement here, most folks would rather eat a T-bone stake once a day and nothing else than and 3 items from the McD/KFC menu whenever you feel like it.


That analogy would make sense if people only played exclusives. Since that's not the case, you should also say that people have the option to a shit ton of other food supply, all varying in quality from the best of all food to the worst.

I thought we were all only talking exclusives in here not adding 3rd party...



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deskpro2k3 on 20 January 2012
coolbeans said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I prefer a wide variety of different game choices, and this year xbox360 has no games.

Depends upon where you look.


true to a degree, but it's obvious where to look.



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Andrespetmonkey on 20 January 2012
pezus said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
pezus said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
pezus said:
BasilZero said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

Yeah you're completely right, and the few SONY franchises that were established have been hit pretty hard this gen (Final fantasy, gran turismo). 


Wait what, FF isnt a Sony franchise ;p

 

But ya Gran Turismo hit a new low, mostly cause they took so damn long to make it, it was right up to the jokes along with Duke Nukem Forever lol.

How did it hit a new low?? You mean critic reviews? Meh

Critic reviews aside, the main thing is that it's just not the best of the best anymore, there was an unbelievable amount of hype around it and after what, 6 years in development? It finally came out and it was very good, but it was not the masterpiece people were expecting. 

I don't know why it gets the flak it does. The only reason GT isn't the king of the mountain anymore is that there's a lot more competition. Gran Turismo will be Gran Turismo...I think some people just want to see GT turn into Forza a bit too much

Exactly, competition is why it's not the best of the best anymore. I don't think people want GT to turn into Forza, I think they just want GT to progress. I think the problem is that polyphony still think all they have to compete with is their previous game, if that makes sense. Hopefully things will be different with GT6.

I get what you're saying but that's the way I like it. I'm sure they'll make great improvements in GT6 though

 You know I think the main issue with SONYs japanese studios is that they don't really have a set time to develop a game, so development is constantly changing and a lot of design choices aren't concrete, which may seem like a good thing but it leads to the game being unfocused and weak is many areas. For example, instead of adding bloody go karts they could of maybe created another 200 premium cars to replace the standard ones. Hopefully SONY will give polyphony a date for GT6 and stick to it. (ps4 launch title please!)

I fear the same thing will happen to The Last Guardian.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 20 January 2012
BHR-3 said:
"Many of the Xbox 360 exclusives are simple continuations of previous titles"

you can say the same for sony as well god of war'3' socom '4' infamous '2' uncharted '3' kilzone '3' lbp'2' and for this year i think they have tlg which is a franchise from last gen along with twisted metal which is even older and warhawk

the bottom line is this late into a gen its really rare that you'll get exclusives or new IPs, besides there are plenty of big 3rd party releases that both sony and MS owners will enjoy like ME3, maxpayne3, new tombraider, next gta, silent hill, and re6, 3rd party is where its at

im sure MS are saving the new ips and exclusives for next gen


The difference between Microsoft and Sony is tha the majority of their hit titles are in house. Microsoft at the end of the day relies on another companies IP, third parties and Then three other first party titles in Forza, Fable, Alan Wake. This is a weak staggeringly weak list as those games are not strong enough to carry Microsofts year. Whats the counter plan? Have one strong exclusive per year from the top two exclusive franchises in Gears or Halo. Halo is finished, so Microsofts true weaknesses are showing. Sony has never been as weak and never will be. Microsoft is the only videogame company dependant on third party. People say Microsoft is the new Sega and I find that to be an insult because Sega lived and breathed first party.



Jay520 on 20 January 2012
Ajescent said:
Jay520 said:
Ajescent said:
So in summary of the "quality/quantity" arguement here, most folks would rather eat a T-bone stake once a day and nothing else than and 3 items from the McD/KFC menu whenever you feel like it.


That analogy would make sense if people only played exclusives. Since that's not the case, you should also say that people have the option to a shit ton of other food supply, all varying in quality from the best of all food to the worst.

I thought we were all only talking exclusives in here not adding 3rd party...



It is, but when you say "eat a T-bone steak and nothing else," you imply that exclusives are the only thing that people can play and they would reach a stage of starvation without them.

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Ajescent on 20 January 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
BHR-3 said:
"Many of the Xbox 360 exclusives are simple continuations of previous titles"

you can say the same for sony as well god of war'3' socom '4' infamous '2' uncharted '3' kilzone '3' lbp'2' and for this year i think they have tlg which is a franchise from last gen along with twisted metal which is even older and warhawk

the bottom line is this late into a gen its really rare that you'll get exclusives or new IPs, besides there are plenty of big 3rd party releases that both sony and MS owners will enjoy like ME3, maxpayne3, new tombraider, next gta, silent hill, and re6, 3rd party is where its at

im sure MS are saving the new ips and exclusives for next gen


The difference between Microsoft and Sony is tha the majority of their hit titles are in house. Microsoft at the end of the day relies on another companies IP, third parties and Then three other first party titles in Forza, Fable, Alan Wake. This is a weak staggeringly weak list as those games are not strong enough to carry Microsofts year. Whats the counter plan? Have one strong exclusive per year from the top two exclusive franchises in Gears or Halo. Halo is finished, so Microsofts true weaknesses are showing. Sony has never been as weak and never will be. Microsoft is the only videogame company dependant on third party. People say Microsoft is the new Sega and I find that to be an insult because Sega lived and breathed first party.


Well... Halo is coming back for another trilogy so don't count it out yet. Also I'd say Sega had a better first party offering than MS does. or is that just me?



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Andrespetmonkey on 20 January 2012
pezus said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
pezus said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
pezus said:
Andrespetmonkey said:
pezus said:
BasilZero said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

Yeah you're completely right, and the few SONY franchises that were established have been hit pretty hard this gen (Final fantasy, gran turismo). 


Wait what, FF isnt a Sony franchise ;p

 

But ya Gran Turismo hit a new low, mostly cause they took so damn long to make it, it was right up to the jokes along with Duke Nukem Forever lol.

How did it hit a new low?? You mean critic reviews? Meh

Critic reviews aside, the main thing is that it's just not the best of the best anymore, there was an unbelievable amount of hype around it and after what, 6 years in development? It finally came out and it was very good, but it was not the masterpiece people were expecting. 

I don't know why it gets the flak it does. The only reason GT isn't the king of the mountain anymore is that there's a lot more competition. Gran Turismo will be Gran Turismo...I think some people just want to see GT turn into Forza a bit too much

Exactly, competition is why it's not the best of the best anymore. I don't think people want GT to turn into Forza, I think they just want GT to progress. I think the problem is that polyphony still think all they have to compete with is their previous game, if that makes sense. Hopefully things will be different with GT6.

I get what you're saying but that's the way I like it. I'm sure they'll make great improvements in GT6 though

 You know I think the main issue with SONYs japanese studios is that they don't really have a set time to develop a game, so development is constantly changing and a lot of design choices aren't concrete, which may seem like a good thing but it leads to the game being unfocused and weak is many areas. For example, instead of adding bloody go karts they could of maybe created another 200 premium cars to replace the standard ones. Hopefully SONY will give polyphony a date for GT6 and stick to it. (ps4 launch title please!)

I fear the same thing will happen to The Last Guardian.


Hey, don't diss the go karts! They were a lot of fun, especially in multiplayer . I think making 200 premium cars would take a lot more time than to add go karts.

Maybe it was a bad example, maybe making the multiplayer completely awesome instead of bland and mediocre would be a better one!



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Ajescent on 20 January 2012
Jay520 said:
Ajescent said:
Jay520 said:
Ajescent said:
So in summary of the "quality/quantity" arguement here, most folks would rather eat a T-bone stake once a day and nothing else than and 3 items from the McD/KFC menu whenever you feel like it.


That analogy would make sense if people only played exclusives. Since that's not the case, you should also say that people have the option to a shit ton of other food supply, all varying in quality from the best of all food to the worst.

I thought we were all only talking exclusives in here not adding 3rd party...


It is, but when you say "eat a T-bone steak and nothing else," you imply that exclusives are the only thing that people can play and they would reach a stage of starvation without them.

Good point but then again the fact that 3rd party is available to everyone it does make it rather moot no?



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S.T.A.G.E. on 20 January 2012
Ajescent said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
BHR-3 said:
"Many of the Xbox 360 exclusives are simple continuations of previous titles"

you can say the same for sony as well god of war'3' socom '4' infamous '2' uncharted '3' kilzone '3' lbp'2' and for this year i think they have tlg which is a franchise from last gen along with twisted metal which is even older and warhawk

the bottom line is this late into a gen its really rare that you'll get exclusives or new IPs, besides there are plenty of big 3rd party releases that both sony and MS owners will enjoy like ME3, maxpayne3, new tombraider, next gta, silent hill, and re6, 3rd party is where its at

im sure MS are saving the new ips and exclusives for next gen


The difference between Microsoft and Sony is tha the majority of their hit titles are in house. Microsoft at the end of the day relies on another companies IP, third parties and Then three other first party titles in Forza, Fable, Alan Wake. This is a weak staggeringly weak list as those games are not strong enough to carry Microsofts year. Whats the counter plan? Have one strong exclusive per year from the top two exclusive franchises in Gears or Halo. Halo is finished, so Microsofts true weaknesses are showing. Sony has never been as weak and never will be. Microsoft is the only videogame company dependant on third party. People say Microsoft is the new Sega and I find that to be an insult because Sega lived and breathed first party.


Well... Halo is coming back for another trilogy so don't count it out yet. Also I'd say Sega had a better first party offering than MS does. or is that just me?


I meant Gears (sorry). I've always known Halo would never die. Microsoft needs or else their time in the gaming realm is up. Halo is the major reason people even looked at the original Xbox and continue to look at this one. After all the third party titles are washed up and Gears is overused, which game will they all run to? Halo. I agree that Sega had a far better first party offering and it sickens me when people say Microsoft is Segas successor when Sega was a purely gaming focused company. Microsoft is in this race for the opposite reasoning as Sega was.



S.T.A.G.E. on 20 January 2012

Microsoft bitches about how not every game is a hit and how hard it is to make a successful title. First of all what fleet of first party hits are they even making? Of course not every AAA title is going to be a hit, look at Sony for crying out loud, their library is astonishing for being in last place. They have the least shovelware of all of the consoles. Only gamers would know that though. At least Spencer admitted the truth finally because Mattrick is in lala land thinking that the 360 truly delivers the most blockbusters. I almost fell off my chair when Geoff Keighley questioned Mattrick that he actually believed the 360 had hotter titles. You could see "not impressed" written all over his face. Mattrick must not know that Keighley is a gamer.