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Nintendo just said that he won't be stepping down... !



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Kasz216 said:
JOKA_ said:
In my mind it's best to go out when your on top. There really is nothing he has touched that his fans and gamers don't enjoy. He can retire as an amazing success and icon.

I disagree. (not that he's going to stop making games now, but with that premise)

Going out on top is nice in theory, but in reality it means that we miss the whole downslope.

Even if he (or any big designer) designer isn't ever going to make a game better then there last one, they can still make games as good as past ones, and better then a lot of stuff lesser talented designers will make.

Me, I'd like to see every television show end only when enough people say it's crap, atheltes quit only after they've been washed up, and artists only stop making work when their audiences are no longer interested.  (Assuming plot points or story validity aren't comromised. IE, story being dragged out for more seasons, character meant to die lives because they need to for the plot to stick around.)

I see what you mean, but I feel it takes something special to go "you know, what I have done/what my product has done has truely been a remarkable thing, but going into the future don't see it holding up to its initial quality".  Knowing when to say "It was a good run, but lets not go out kicking and screaming" is something I can get behind.

Now that I type that and read it out loud I guess it doesn't make sense in this particular instance, because Miyamoto clearly wants to continue making games, and if he as the artist feel s he can more power to him.



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JOKA_ said:
Kasz216 said:
JOKA_ said:
In my mind it's best to go out when your on top. There really is nothing he has touched that his fans and gamers don't enjoy. He can retire as an amazing success and icon.

I disagree. (not that he's going to stop making games now, but with that premise)

Going out on top is nice in theory, but in reality it means that we miss the whole downslope.

Even if he (or any big designer) designer isn't ever going to make a game better then there last one, they can still make games as good as past ones, and better then a lot of stuff lesser talented designers will make.

Me, I'd like to see every television show end only when enough people say it's crap, atheltes quit only after they've been washed up, and artists only stop making work when their audiences are no longer interested.  (Assuming plot points or story validity aren't comromised. IE, story being dragged out for more seasons, character meant to die lives because they need to for the plot to stick around.)

I see what you mean, but I feel it takes something special to go "you know, what I have done/what my product has done has truely been a remarkable thing, but going into the future don't see it holding up to its initial quality".  Knowing when to say "It was a good run, but lets not go out kicking and screaming" is something I can get behind.

Now that I type that and read it out loud I guess it doesn't make sense in this particular instance, because Miyamoto clearly wants to continue making games, and if he as the artist feel s he can more power to him.


Difference of opinion really.  I think it's based on what you consider a legacy.

To a lot of people it's your entire career.

To me, your legacy is when you peaked, and how long you peaked for.

The classic American example is Willie Mays one of the best defensive players ever falling down in the outfield while trying to make a play...

which while painful to remember, that doesn't stop Willie Mays from being ranked in the all time greats and i'd argue didn't effect his ranks among them at all.



Roma said:

You mean he made the decision to cut the price that much? And he decides when games get released as well as decide to give 3rd party developers the opportunity to release games before the big Nintendo games come?

3DS was sold at the price of 250 because of the positive reaction it got from the press. Nintendo even said that themselves. I guess that was Miyamotos decision as well…

I wonder what Iwata does as a president

The business side was forced to cut the price by that much, because Miyamoto's games couldn't realistically boost hardware sales to the point where Nintendo wanted them to be before the PS Vita's launch.

It looks quite obvious what's going on here, seeing the reactions from you and others. If Nintendo does well, Miyamoto gets (almost) all of the praise. If Nintendo struggles, the whole blame goes to the business side.

You can certainly blame Iwata and company for giving Miyamoto so much freedom in designing the hardware and the software for the 3DS. They should have stepped in and said this or that game needs to be made and another one has to wait until the system has cemented its success. But Miyamoto certainly isn't innocent when it comes to the failure of the 3DS.



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Malstrom should be happy about this. Anyway, Miyamoto was very important in the creation of wonderful games, and even if he hasn't directed anything lately he has been supervising. Some blame should go to him when games don't sell, but also thanks to him we get things like Motion+ in Skyward Sword for example.



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well thats sad to hear i think, but what has he done for the industry again?



bobgamez said:
Um he is not retiring, did you read the article? Did no one read the article?

considering i was going to post the article just after the op already had then i'd say me and you are the only 2 that know he's nolonger game director, and is not leaving Ninty, but focusing more on creating games i would assume on a more personal level.

besides this i vgc. not many read before posting.



Turns out... he's not retiring. YES! =D



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Twitter was going nuts too, surprising to see Miyamoto trending for once.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.