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Mr Khan said:

Diversity exists, but at the end of the day, is it really appreciated?

At the end of the day, in every creative medium, diversity comes at the expense of quality. There is an infinite space of new ideas out there, but most of them aren't very good ones. Also it is extremely rare to nail a concept on the first try. While I would certainly appreciate more diversity, the sad truth is if the industry were driven purely by innovation, games would probably become less fun...

It's ironic, but true, and I'm not even getting into the financial side. There needs to be a balance...



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gumby_trucker said:
Mr Khan said:

The other side doesn't seem to crave originality that much either. Make a nice, brown/grey macho FPS/TPS and maybe a solid racing sim or two and you'll have as much of that market as you can have with everyone else doing that as well...

Which is merely to say that no segment of the market seems to value fundamentally new ideas. B/G FPSes would be a new idea to Nintendo, but not to the industry at large, which seems to be in a race to copy each other all over the place, much like the film industry

I was gonna say that the day Nintendo makes a colorless/expressionless space marine is the day I retire from gaming, but then I remembered this:

Now I just don't know what to say...

You call that colorless?



Play4Fun said:

You call that colorless?

For a Nintendo character yes, very much so (ignore the purple distraction to his left). But I was actually being sarcastic in that he's still an awesome character that fits the criteria, and the game rules



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Dinomax said:

 Instead of trying to ""surprise"" us and just make games we are willing to pay for?

Yeah, maybe if they did that they'd be the ones breaking reccords on 10 million plus selling games. What silly bastards they are.

Dinomax said:

Sounds and looks to me, like a game company is pushing real hard to bank on Cinema.

Sure. That's the reason Wii is killing gaming. Because it's pushing so much for cinematic experiences. Fortunatelly most of the other developers are doing the opposite.



gumby_trucker said:
Mr Khan said:

The other side doesn't seem to crave originality that much either. Make a nice, brown/grey macho FPS/TPS and maybe a solid racing sim or two and you'll have as much of that market as you can have with everyone else doing that as well...

Which is merely to say that no segment of the market seems to value fundamentally new ideas. B/G FPSes would be a new idea to Nintendo, but not to the industry at large, which seems to be in a race to copy each other all over the place, much like the film industry

I was gonna say that the day Nintendo makes a colorless/expressionless space marine is the day I retire from gaming, but then I remembered this:

Now I just don't know what to say...


He's not a space marine, and having a single skin tone is not colorless.



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Man you have a negative feel about Hollywood. Studios do produce origional works all the time just look at Inception. Also if Hollywood didn't base movies on books then what would they base it on? Scripts often start from books or are made into books before Hollywood picks them up. Look at HarryPotter for example based on a book but was something new and fresh out of hollywood. Avatar was also the first movie to really show off RealD 3D technology and that is something unique and fresh.

Nintendo produces enough sequels and sticks enough to their franchises. They do well at creating new experiances while keeping old content availible for those that like it. Also Brain Age may have been a big thing in the gaming industry that you may have thought was fresh and suprising. But Brain games and tests have been around for a century all Nintendo did was bring these games and tests to video games. If you want to call Hollywood unorigional for bringing RealD 3D since 3D has been done since the earlier half of the 1900's then Brain Age also isn't new. Also Nintendogs wasn't new then either because your forgetting Tamagotchi which came out offering a similiar experiance over a decade ago.

Nintendo is alot like Hollywood, I don't think thats a bad thing. Infact the whole entertainment industry is unique and alot alike. Movies, Games, Music are all very similiar. Remakes, solid IP and some fresh idea's inspired by existing content make up the respective industries!



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Joelcool7 said:

Man you have a negative feel about Hollywood. Studios do produce origional works all the time just look at Inception. Also if Hollywood didn't base movies on books then what would they base it on? Scripts often start from books or are made into books before Hollywood picks them up. Look at HarryPotter for example based on a book but was something new and fresh out of hollywood. Avatar was also the first movie to really show off RealD 3D technology and that is something unique and fresh.

Nintendo produces enough sequels and sticks enough to their franchises. They do well at creating new experiances while keeping old content availible for those that like it. Also Brain Age may have been a big thing in the gaming industry that you may have thought was fresh and suprising. But Brain games and tests have been around for a century all Nintendo did was bring these games and tests to video games. If you want to call Hollywood unorigional for bringing RealD 3D since 3D has been done since the earlier half of the 1900's then Brain Age also isn't new. Also Nintendogs wasn't new then either because your forgetting Tamagotchi which came out offering a similiar experiance over a decade ago.

Nintendo is alot like Hollywood, I don't think thats a bad thing. Infact the whole entertainment industry is unique and alot alike. Movies, Games, Music are all very similiar. Remakes, solid IP and some fresh idea's inspired by existing content make up the respective industries!

There tend to be a couple noteworthy original movies from major Hollywood studios but the vast majority of Hollywood productions are sequels, remakes, or adaptations of novels, comic books, plays, TV series, or "Real life stories" ...

On the whole, it is fair to say that Hollywood has lost the ability to tell stories; but there are exceptions.



HappySqurriel said:
Joelcool7 said:

Man you have a negative feel about Hollywood. Studios do produce origional works all the time just look at Inception. Also if Hollywood didn't base movies on books then what would they base it on? Scripts often start from books or are made into books before Hollywood picks them up. Look at HarryPotter for example based on a book but was something new and fresh out of hollywood. Avatar was also the first movie to really show off RealD 3D technology and that is something unique and fresh.

Nintendo produces enough sequels and sticks enough to their franchises. They do well at creating new experiances while keeping old content availible for those that like it. Also Brain Age may have been a big thing in the gaming industry that you may have thought was fresh and suprising. But Brain games and tests have been around for a century all Nintendo did was bring these games and tests to video games. If you want to call Hollywood unorigional for bringing RealD 3D since 3D has been done since the earlier half of the 1900's then Brain Age also isn't new. Also Nintendogs wasn't new then either because your forgetting Tamagotchi which came out offering a similiar experiance over a decade ago.

Nintendo is alot like Hollywood, I don't think thats a bad thing. Infact the whole entertainment industry is unique and alot alike. Movies, Games, Music are all very similiar. Remakes, solid IP and some fresh idea's inspired by existing content make up the respective industries!

There tend to be a couple noteworthy original movies from major Hollywood studios but the vast majority of Hollywood productions are sequels, remakes, or adaptations of novels, comic books, plays, TV series, or "Real life stories" ...

On the whole, it is fair to say that Hollywood has lost the ability to tell stories; but there are exceptions.


Yeah, one film in a while is not "all the time". That might not be intentional on joecool's part, but I see that as a weasel discussion tactic all the time.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

If Nintendo wants to be like Hollywood let them. E3 won't come fast enough. Will Nintendo show off Starfox HD? What will Project Cafe/Wii2 controller be able to do. I want Nintendo to surprise me.



Nintendo has never been a follower, they have always been a leader. Nintendo doesn't want to be anything like Hollywood.



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