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Conegamer said:


True, but it's the same for all consoles. We're talking about Q2 ONLY, so UP TO JUNE, ONLY.

And as others have already said, there's only a couple big games for each console in Q2. It's a summer drought, it happens for all consoles.

Oh, you can add Carnival Games to the 360 list if you'd like. We aren't gonna buy it, but it'll still be a million-seller. So just because the games will sell millions, doesn't mean they're good games, SOCOM 4 is an example of this if reviews are correct.

I don't know how you can think that the Wii, which only has two notable games to your recollection in Q2 can be in the same situation as the HD consoles.  

After April which had Mortal Kombat and Portal 2 the notable games in Q2 that will release on HD consoles are: L.A. Noire, Witcher 2, and Brink in May as well as Infamous 2, Alice: Madness Returns, and El Shaddai in June.  That's 6 notable games on HD consoles (I even cut a lot out like Fear 3 and Hunted: The Demon's Forge) in those two months compared to one controller tie in game on Wii.  The situations are not nearly the same.  You can say "well it only has ____ games if you're saying a platform has a drought it shouldn't be dependent on your taste in games but just how many notable games in general are releasing on the platform, and in that measure the HD consoles are completely different from the Wii in Q2.

 




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Torillian said:
Conegamer said:


True, but it's the same for all consoles. We're talking about Q2 ONLY, so UP TO JUNE, ONLY.

And as others have already said, there's only a couple big games for each console in Q2. It's a summer drought, it happens for all consoles.

Oh, you can add Carnival Games to the 360 list if you'd like. We aren't gonna buy it, but it'll still be a million-seller. So just because the games will sell millions, doesn't mean they're good games, SOCOM 4 is an example of this if reviews are correct.

I don't know how you can think that the Wii, which only has two notable games to your recollection in Q2 can be in the same situation as the HD consoles.  

After April which had Mortal Kombat and Portal 2 the notable games in Q2 that will release on HD consoles are: L.A. Noire, Witcher 2, and Brink in May as well as Infamous 2, Alice: Madness Returns, and El Shaddai in June.  That's 6 notable games on HD consoles (I even cut a lot out like Fear 3 and Hunted: The Demon's Forge) in those two months compared to one controller tie in game on Wii.  The situations are not nearly the same.  You can say "well it only has ____ games if you're saying a platform has a drought it shouldn't be dependent on your taste in games but just how many notable games in general are releasing on the platform, and in that measure the HD consoles are completely different from the Wii in Q2.

 


I don't agree with that at all.

A game I'm not interested in is a game I'm not interested in. It doesn't matter if it's any of the 6 games you've listed or any of the games on the Wii's Q2 list, I'd look upon them all with the same disdain whereas this seems to be descending into a debate about personally uninteresting hardcore games being somehow superior to personally uninteresting casual games, when the type of game (in the hardcore/casual sense) is irrelevant if I'm not buying anything either way.

As it is right now, I've not bought a retail game this year on any platform, and of all the upcoming games I'm only interested in two games over all platforms between now and September. So if I buy those two that'll represent two purchases in the first 8 months of the year on all platforms, and you're going to tell me I'm not experiencing a drought just because there's a few 'notable' releases? Just try it.



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I think we might have a definition problem.

Drought = not enough rain falling in a certain length of time to meet X criteria.

Drought != I have/don't have enough water in my tank, I care/don't care if it rains.

 



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milkyjoe said:

I don't agree with that at all.

A game I'm not interested in is a game I'm not interested in. It doesn't matter if it's any of the 6 games you've listed or any of the games on the Wii's Q2 list, I'd look upon them all with the same disdain whereas this seems to be descending into a debate about personally uninteresting hardcore games being somehow superior to personally uninteresting casual games, when the type of game (in the hardcore/casual sense) is irrelevant if I'm not buying anything either way.

As it is right now, I've not bought a retail game this year on any platform, and of all the upcoming games I'm only interested in two games over all platforms between now and September. So if I buy those two that'll represent two purchases in the first 8 months of the year on all platforms, and you're going to tell me I'm not experiencing a drought just because there's a few 'notable' releases? Just try it.


But that's a ridiculous standard for a statement like "____ is having a software drought".  A similar statement would be like me saying "the Wii has no worthwhile games" because none of the games fit my tastes.  If I go into a thread and say that I know for a fact that every Ninty fan will give me big lists of every game they can think of to prove I'm wrong, I'm just doing the same thing here.  "HD Consoles have a drought in Q2 just like the Wii does", I call BS on that statement based on the list of games I just put up just like someone arguing against "The Wii has no games".  Now if you want to say "HD consoles have no games I want in Q2" that's fine, but "HD consoles have no games in Q2" is a different statement that I will argue against.



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We are satisfied with the wii library, we are reliefed for not having to consider buying new games recently. But we also like to trash 3rd parties for releasing cheap spin offs and not real games that we don't want anyway.



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Torillian said:

But that's a ridiculous standard for a statement like "____ is having a software drought".  A similar statement would be like me saying "the Wii has no worthwhile games" because none of the games fit my tastes.  If I go into a thread and say that I know for a fact that every Ninty fan will give me big lists of every game they can think of to prove I'm wrong, I'm just doing the same thing here.  "HD Consoles have a drought in Q2 just like the Wii does", I call BS on that statement based on the list of games I just put up just like someone arguing against "The Wii has no games".  Now if you want to say "HD consoles have no games I want in Q2" that's fine, but "HD consoles have no games in Q2" is a different statement that I will argue against.

As far I can see, I can only see people saying similar to myself in that there's not much of personal interest (whilst acknowledging at the same time for someone out there this quarter could be the best quarter they've ever had), which has been spun into '____ has no gamezzz' full stop.



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Torillian said:
Conegamer said:


True, but it's the same for all consoles. We're talking about Q2 ONLY, so UP TO JUNE, ONLY.

And as others have already said, there's only a couple big games for each console in Q2. It's a summer drought, it happens for all consoles.

Oh, you can add Carnival Games to the 360 list if you'd like. We aren't gonna buy it, but it'll still be a million-seller. So just because the games will sell millions, doesn't mean they're good games, SOCOM 4 is an example of this if reviews are correct.

I don't know how you can think that the Wii, which only has two notable games to your recollection in Q2 can be in the same situation as the HD consoles.  

After April which had Mortal Kombat and Portal 2 the notable games in Q2 that will release on HD consoles are: L.A. Noire, Witcher 2, and Brink in May as well as Infamous 2, Alice: Madness Returns, and El Shaddai in June.  That's 6 notable games on HD consoles (I even cut a lot out like Fear 3 and Hunted: The Demon's Forge) in those two months compared to one controller tie in game on Wii.  The situations are not nearly the same.  You can say "well it only has ____ games if you're saying a platform has a drought it shouldn't be dependent on your taste in games but just how many notable games in general are releasing on the platform, and in that measure the HD consoles are completely different from the Wii in Q2.

 



Quite a contradiction coming from the man who said he wasn't getting a 3DS till games he liked came out on the platform  

In reality it's all about your tastes I haven't bought a 2011 game on the PS3 or 360 since Little Big Planet 2 in January.  There are two sides to a "drought" one being the games that are coming out, the other being games you want that are coming out.  One is factual based on the numbers, the other is subjective and depends on the person, so from person to person the "drought"could be going for all platforms or just a couple, but then you have people like the topic creator who needed some time to pick up old titles for the cheap and finish titles he hadn't beaten on the console, technically for him there is no drought as those titles are brand new to him.



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milkyjoe said:
Torillian said:

But that's a ridiculous standard for a statement like "____ is having a software drought".  A similar statement would be like me saying "the Wii has no worthwhile games" because none of the games fit my tastes.  If I go into a thread and say that I know for a fact that every Ninty fan will give me big lists of every game they can think of to prove I'm wrong, I'm just doing the same thing here.  "HD Consoles have a drought in Q2 just like the Wii does", I call BS on that statement based on the list of games I just put up just like someone arguing against "The Wii has no games".  Now if you want to say "HD consoles have no games I want in Q2" that's fine, but "HD consoles have no games in Q2" is a different statement that I will argue against.

As far I can see, I can only see people saying similar to myself in that there's not much of personal interest (whilst acknowledging at the same time for someone out there this quarter could be the best quarter they've ever had), which has been spun into '____ has no gamezzz' full stop.

"I mean, how many games are there coming out for the HD consoles in May onwards? I can count but a few...they'll be a drought for all consoles. "

is what I was responding to.  are we all just going to ignore that statement and just assume I was making a sweeping generalization to the thread in general?

@Maxwell: no contradiction.  I never said that the 3DS had no games, I said it didn't have anything I want.  Two different statement.



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Torillian said:
milkyjoe said:
Torillian said:

But that's a ridiculous standard for a statement like "____ is having a software drought".  A similar statement would be like me saying "the Wii has no worthwhile games" because none of the games fit my tastes.  If I go into a thread and say that I know for a fact that every Ninty fan will give me big lists of every game they can think of to prove I'm wrong, I'm just doing the same thing here.  "HD Consoles have a drought in Q2 just like the Wii does", I call BS on that statement based on the list of games I just put up just like someone arguing against "The Wii has no games".  Now if you want to say "HD consoles have no games I want in Q2" that's fine, but "HD consoles have no games in Q2" is a different statement that I will argue against.

As far I can see, I can only see people saying similar to myself in that there's not much of personal interest (whilst acknowledging at the same time for someone out there this quarter could be the best quarter they've ever had), which has been spun into '____ has no gamezzz' full stop.

"I mean, how many games are there coming out for the HD consoles in May onwards? I can count but a few...they'll be a drought for all consoles. "

is what I was responding to.  are we all just going to ignore that statement and just assume I was making a sweeping generalization to the thread in general?

@Maxwell: no contradiction.  I never said that the 3DS had no games, I said it didn't have anything I want.  Two different statement.


You totally missed the entire point of my post which was, you're calling a "drought" a numbers thing, as it couldn't be subjective, but to you there isn't anything on the 3DS you want which is essentially no games for you to buy, IE a "drought", which is quite common with launch libraries.  It's just like how people get around saying _______ console has no games *troll face* by saying __________ console has no games for me *troll face, and do it at every opportunity*, one statement is factual and quantitive the other is subjective, but a drought is defined by the fact there isn't any games you want to buy as every console has games coming out, if we're wanting to get literal here.



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MaxwellGT2000 said:
Torillian said:
milkyjoe said:
Torillian said:

But that's a ridiculous standard for a statement like "____ is having a software drought".  A similar statement would be like me saying "the Wii has no worthwhile games" because none of the games fit my tastes.  If I go into a thread and say that I know for a fact that every Ninty fan will give me big lists of every game they can think of to prove I'm wrong, I'm just doing the same thing here.  "HD Consoles have a drought in Q2 just like the Wii does", I call BS on that statement based on the list of games I just put up just like someone arguing against "The Wii has no games".  Now if you want to say "HD consoles have no games I want in Q2" that's fine, but "HD consoles have no games in Q2" is a different statement that I will argue against.

As far I can see, I can only see people saying similar to myself in that there's not much of personal interest (whilst acknowledging at the same time for someone out there this quarter could be the best quarter they've ever had), which has been spun into '____ has no gamezzz' full stop.

"I mean, how many games are there coming out for the HD consoles in May onwards? I can count but a few...they'll be a drought for all consoles. "

is what I was responding to.  are we all just going to ignore that statement and just assume I was making a sweeping generalization to the thread in general?

@Maxwell: no contradiction.  I never said that the 3DS had no games, I said it didn't have anything I want.  Two different statement.


You totally missed the entire point of my post which was, you're calling a "drought" a numbers thing, as it couldn't be subjective, but to you there isn't anything on the 3DS you want which is essentially no games for you to buy, IE a "drought", which is quite common with launch libraries.  It's just like how people get around saying _______ console has no games *troll face* by saying __________ console has no games for me *troll face, and do it at every opportunity*, one statement is factual and quantitive the other is subjective, but a drought is defined by the fact there isn't any games you want to buy as every console has games coming out, if we're wanting to get literal here.


Well then Conegamer can say there's a drought of HD games for all time since his taste in games apparently requires that it be made by or at least be similar to games made by Nintendo.  Huzzah, we've turned another word into something meaningless that can be said at every oppurtunity because it's an assumed opinion of the observer.  

If I say that a console has no games that's precisely what I mean, just like when I say a console has no games for me.  Drought can be defined to you as no games you want to buy, but to me it's about notable releases regardless of your desire to purchase them.  Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree and I'll let this thread get back to it's original topic.



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