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Nsanity said:
Doobie_wop said:

Still have to wait for my copy, I was gonna pick it up on 360, but I guess the PS3 version should be fine and it looks better on my shelf. 

I also wrote in another thread about how Crysis 2 could easily out do Killzone 3 in my final playthrough, but even if the game is amazing, it's not going to win strictly based on how it performs. Dropping to 15 FPS is pretty bad and is in no way a small thing, the texture pop in, screen tearing and the dumb AI that I noticed on the video I watched only seal the deal. The game may be more fun though, so we will see.

Crytek have done a better job than I thought they would, but the game reeks of PC port, which means it's going to be like Metro 2033 and look great, but everything else about it is going to fall a bit short. Codename Kingdoms is going to be a whole different story, it's going to be specifically optimized for the 360 and I'm sure they'll be able to iron out all those performance issues and still deliver great visuals.

Also, to Nsanity, you've obviously never played any of the PS3 games that people keep mentioning and I'd just like to point out that Killzone 3 isn't as closed off as you'd like to think and the AI in the game is very good. You bring up linearity so that your argument for Halo: Reach being significant in any way in terms of technical performance can hold water, but I played Reach and that game was just as linear, the difference was that it gave you a wide open space of rubble and flat textures, instead of a smaller amount of space that blows you away at every corner. Reach has non-linear gameplay, but the level design and progression is still extremely linear. Halo: Reach is not S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Far Cry 2 or Borderlands, it's a lot more like Bioshock or The Darkness. 

lol wut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AKpxmWtCo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI7nSosn3Go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gdtjJJ6_so&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBiqZzpbzsk&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQwXVgNHLo&feature=related

You didn't read what I wrote. The progression is incredibly linear. I have one path to go down to reach the next objective, the path is wide, but it isn't completely open and this allows for plenty of gameplay diversity, but it's not like I can get to the objective from ten different routes or have ten different ways to get there. Halo: Reach is like Bioshock, except the areas are bigger, but far less detailed. Your acting as if the game is like Far Cry 2 or the original Crysis, when it's realistically far more linear. Killzone 3 doesn't have areas as big, but it's not a corridor shooter and some of the levels are fairly open (jet pack levels), but it does look far better and have more detail in it's environments.  



Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752

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mantlepiecek said:
Euphoria14 said:

I also read that the PS3 has better texture filtering than the 360 version. Now, didn't IGN say that the PS3 version is worse with textures as well?

Yeah this is definitely one thing that IGN was wrong about. Also the frame rate drops on the 360 only in the more hectic fights I think.


lens of truth disagrees, in the hectic scenes 360 seems rather good but the ps3 seems to drop, i dunno... i doubt we will see a clear victor in this imo

i may have misread this, it appears you werent comparing the ps3 to 360 in this... apologies



 

Bet with Conegamer and Doobie_wop 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3879752

imagine what SONY fans would have said if Crysis 2 was a PS3 exclusive, nobody can accept that this game surpassed any of their beloved exclusives on both platforms.  Crysis 2 is the best looking game of the generation and many experts  of the industry have already mentioned that , believe me i have never realised the true purpose and what is really beyond this. The worst thing of this behaivor is the intense efford of some SONY fans to make XBOX360 look like an old generation machine that peaked many many years ago with the realease of Gears of War... 



eliasg said:

imagine what SONY fans would have said if Crysis 2 was a PS3 exclusive, nobody can accept that this game surpassed any of their beloved exclusives on both platforms.  Crysis 2 is the best looking game of the generation and many experts  of the industry have already mentioned that , believe me i have never realised the true purpose and what is really beyond this. The worst thing of this behaivor is intense efford of some SONY fans to make XBOX360 look like an old generation machine that peaked many many years ago with the realease of Gears of War... 

Lot of ranting but he does speak some truth



I take this entire argument in a completely different manner than most people.

The article does a good job of saying "On Average" the 360 version is better, but just not always.

 Everything about Crysis 2 feels rushed to me.  I do not care about Crysis 2, but just think what others will do with this engine.  I think the engine is the more important part here, not the game.



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eliasg said:

imagine what SONY fans would have said if Crysis 2 was a PS3 exclusive, nobody can accept that this game surpassed any of their beloved exclusives on both platforms.  Crysis 2 is the best looking game of the generation and many experts  of the industry have already mentioned that , believe me i have never realised the true purpose and what is really beyond this. The worst thing of this behaivor is the intense efford of some SONY fans to make XBOX360 look like an old generation machine that peaked many many years ago with the realease of Gears of War... 

Don't get me wrong, but with your comment you're not better than those people you complain about.

First of all, it's not the "fans" who act like this, it's the "fanboys", there's still a difference between those two groups. Then you make it sound like it's a fact that Crysis 2 is the best looking console game. It's not a fact, not at all. If we look at what the industry said it becomes very clear that there are some reviewers who claimed this, but still... there are more who didn't say it. What I want to say with this is that it simply isn't a fact; for some it is the best looking game on the market, for some it's not. Nobody has to accept anything in this discussion, except for maybe that all these games look amazing. And by the way.. it would be the best to just compare Crysis 2 to other FPS games, and not to entirely different games of other genres.

Furthermore... if (keyword: "if") Uncharted 3 surpasses Crysis 2 in terms of graphics for the majority of the gaming media (reviewers,...) then it will be the 360 fanboys who try to downplay its' graphics. It will be almost the same situation as now... My point here is that both sides act retarded sometimes in situations like this.

And the main problem in discussions like in this thread is that some people (from both sides) immediately need to downplay some games' graphics just because another game is supposed to look better. The funny thing is.... most people haven't played most of those games they're talking about, and you probably haven't either.



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Nsanity said:
eliasg said:

imagine what SONY fans would have said if Crysis 2 was a PS3 exclusive, nobody can accept that this game surpassed any of their beloved exclusives on both platforms.  Crysis 2 is the best looking game of the generation and many experts  of the industry have already mentioned that , believe me i have never realised the true purpose and what is really beyond this. The worst thing of this behaivor is intense efford of some SONY fans to make XBOX360 look like an old generation machine that peaked many many years ago with the realease of Gears of War... 

Lot of ranting but he does speak some truth

Its like he read my mind and is speaking directly to a few people on this website. /thread

Oh he isn't pro 360 either. He has plenty of videos bashing Halo and praising Killzone.



snfr said:
eliasg said:

imagine what SONY fans would have said if Crysis 2 was a PS3 exclusive, nobody can accept that this game surpassed any of their beloved exclusives on both platforms.  Crysis 2 is the best looking game of the generation and many experts  of the industry have already mentioned that , believe me i have never realised the true purpose and what is really beyond this. The worst thing of this behaivor is the intense efford of some SONY fans to make XBOX360 look like an old generation machine that peaked many many years ago with the realease of Gears of War... 

Don't get me wrong, but with your comment you're not better than those people you complain about.

First of all, it's not the "fans" who act like this, it's the "fanboys", there's still a difference between those two groups. Then you make it sound like it's a fact that Crysis 2 is the best looking console game. It's not a fact, not at all. If we look at what the industry said it becomes very clear that there are some reviewers who claimed this, but still... there are more who didn't say it. What I want to say with this is that it simply isn't a fact; for some it is the best looking game on the market, for some it's not. Nobody has to accept anything in this discussion, except for maybe that all these games look amazing. And by the way.. it would be the best to just compare Crysis 2 to other FPS games, and not to entirely different games of other genres.

Furthermore... if (keyword: "if") Uncharted 3 surpasses Crysis 2 in terms of graphics for the majority of the gaming media (reviewers,...) then it will be the 360 fanboys who try to downplay its' graphics. It will be almost the same situation as now... My point here is that both sides act retarded sometimes in situations like this.

And the main problem in discussions like in this thread is that some people (from both sides) immediately need to downplay some games' graphics just because another game is supposed to look better. The funny thing is.... most people haven't played most of those games they're talking about, and you probably haven't either.


Well  look @ how bad things are now, there are only a handful of critics who actually said Crysis 2 is the best looking console game and theres already 360 and ps3 fanboys going crazy so I can only imagine how bad it will be once uncharted 3 drops.



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