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Mr Puggsly said:
Roma said:

 

Why would anyone create something that powerful and only use a bit of it :P

Bragging rights?

Doesn't seem to be making a big impact in gaming.

Yeah lose money so you can brag very smart .:p

I think they will be the reason why the world will end in 2012. they will have sold the amount of consoles needed to destroy us all at that time!!! stop buying PS3eeeeesss!!!



    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

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Onibaka said:

Cell is not THAT good in GPU. They went from the 2xCell PS3 in 2004/2005 to the  Cell RSX in 2006. They realized that Cell doesn't surpass even a cheap GPU in some tasks. Its a waste for a CPU, with can process complex codes, to only perform simple tasks that only requires brutal force, like a GPU.

What I find funny is that all the experience that IBM gained by developing the Cell was used to make the Xenos(x360's processor). There are even rumours about some secrets of Cell being revealed for the development of Xenos, like while Sony IBM Toshiba were developing the Cell, some workers from IBM worked in both projects. Xenos have 3 PPUs almost identical of the Cell one. Both have 3.2GHz. I think that Microsoft wanted to make a console easy to make ports from. By releasing X360 early, MS pretty much assured that would have a very good support for their plataform. For the very loyal developers, there is nothing that money can't buy...

 

Actually, I think that if the PS3 didn't have a Blu-Ray, but instead a 8800GTX as GPU, they could have outsold Xbox360by a larger margin at today.

You have one thing in reverse, The 360 Xeno came before the Cell in the experimental cycle, it's just a Tri-Core PowerPC, it's no different than any multicore CPUs we see today in it's basic design form. The current Cell and Power PC CPUs are on a completely different level in the computing world of course. Cell is really a different design and I can't say it was the best option as a dev friendly gaming only CPU but it's really efficient at pretty much everything if you can code for it correctly, fortunately, we are already there after years of criticism. HD consoels suffer the same problems, not enough memory, and outdated video chipsets, though PS3 is not suffering as badly if you make games exclusively for it in an overall sense.



Crystalchild said:

knewing that w/o being a member. :>

yes, the PS3 is, theoretically, much stronger than 360 Wii combined. The Problem is, that the stuff inside the 360 is more opted for gaming than the PS3, so much of this power is gone to waste.

Actually it's that the currently existing software was opted for 360 architect (part of the reason they stuck with it), as software continues to improve for ps3 so will performance I can see it rivaling the next xbox performance wise 



Roma said:

 

Why would anyone create something that powerful and only use a bit of it :P

Because as software improves so does the efficiency, ps3 is already capable of much more then 360 and it still has alot of areas it can improve on, the downside is that only exclusives take advantage of that 



Crystalchild said:

knewing that w/o being a member. :>

yes, the PS3 is, theoretically, much stronger than 360 Wii combined. The Problem is, that the stuff inside the 360 is more opted for gaming than the PS3, so much of this power is gone to waste.


what do you mean being opted for gaming?

the main problem with the PS3 was its architecture which was completely different from the existing computer architecture but had more capabilities at low price and it would be expensive to extract the same performance out of the existing architecture

360 architecture was the same as computers

and Wii was too

 



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Mr Puggsly said:
Roma said:

 

Why would anyone create something that powerful and only use a bit of it :P

Bragging rights?

Doesn't seem to be making a big impact in gaming.

No revolution, no.  But those first party games are pretty bitchin' compared to 95% of all other games.



Maybe the ps3 is really the ps4. Think about that. 15 year life span.



SuperAnthony64 said:

Maybe the ps3 is really the ps4. Think about that. 15 year life span.

I've been wondering the same thing myself, if ps3 is able to compete with the next xbox and nintendo system processing power wise I see no reason for them to release a new console, maybe a ps3 with a faster blu ray drive but thats about it 



snakenobi said:
Crystalchild said:

knewing that w/o being a member. :>

yes, the PS3 is, theoretically, much stronger than 360 Wii combined. The Problem is, that the stuff inside the 360 is more opted for gaming than the PS3, so much of this power is gone to waste.


what do you mean being opted for gaming?

the main problem with the PS3 was its architecture which was completely different from the existing computer architecture but had more capabilities at low price and it would be expensive to extract the same performance out of the existing architecture

360 architecture was the same as computers

and Wii was too

 

Interesting that you say that, cause back at release the 360's GPU was very different from current GPUs with its unified shader architecture, yet the PS3 believe it or not was closer to PC at the time, except with an alien processor (Though the 360 had an alien processor at the time too, though not as alien as what the PS3 had).



DarkintheLight said:
SuperAnthony64 said:

Maybe the ps3 is really the ps4. Think about that. 15 year life span.

I've been wondering the same thing myself, if ps3 is able to compete with the next xbox and nintendo system processing power wise I see no reason for them to release a new console, maybe a ps3 with a faster blu ray drive but thats about it 


or crossfire two ps3's to make a ps6. boom! skipping 2 gens. all kidding aside, after playing the killzone 3 mp demo today i am really begining to think the ps3's power is limitless. I cant belive how great that game looks. probably one of the best looking game out. I really think its on par with metro 2033 pc. just needs that sweet smoke effect in the metro and the foggy goggles.  just give me keyboard and mouse support for all the fps games and i will go back to ps3 being my leading game plat of choice.