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Even if they don't have a health test... I really doubt you'd pass the Psych test Phoenix, your all kinds of silly paranoid.


I mean you are having  a heart attack about something that wouldn't be enforced unless....

A) We were being invaded directly, in which case we'd be fucked anyway... numbers really don't matter that much in modern warfare.

B) The government was taken over and made into a dictatorship of fascist state.  In which case, if there was no draft, they would instate one shortly after anyway.

 

Edit: Also, blaming the Civil war Jim Crow laws and the KKK is kinda like blaming a woman for people being mad at someone for killing a rapist who tries to rape them.

You know what nonviolent resistance gets a rape victim?  It gets them raped.

You know what nonviolent resistance gets a slave?  A whipping.

Non violent resistance only really works if the people you are resisting give a shit about you.

I mean hell since WW2 has already been brought up, how well did non violent resistance help the Jews in WW2?


Pacisfism is nothing but a philosphy of the well off.  It's easy to be a pacisfist if your a middle class white dude in America or some other similar country, cause people care about you and few people wanna mess up your shit. 

It's a bit different if you're living in africa, and have the general choice of sending men out for food who will generally be killed or women out for food who will be raped, because your great great great great great grandfather was part of the wrong group that hasn't existed for generations.



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voty2000 said:

I can agree with you disagreeing with putting the women on a pedestal, that's my personal belief. 

When it comes to women in the draft, physically men are stronger than women.  We are the stronger sex and as the stronger sex it's our duty to protect our women.  I think it shows a lack of respect because woman are the child bearers, something men can't do.  Women have the duty to carry our children and I think men have the duty to protect them, we each have our roles and denying women our protection to me shows lack of respect.  We should want to make sure the female population is cared for, and sometimes that means giving our lives for their sake.  I guess that my views are simply drilled into my core and others may disagree, but I cannot honestly understand how a man could want women in the draft.  I mean, growing up my father was much more protective of my sisters than me and my brother.  He didn't think they were weak, he simply wanted them to have the best life possible and drilled into my head that you respect all women and do what you can to protect them.

Though you may have the best intentions, that ideal carries mysogyny in its very core.

I'm not bashing you for it, I'm just saying that you should reconsider what role women should play in modern society.

Hell, I carry it in my core as well. It's not something that's easily shed.




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Kasz216 said:

Edit: Also, blaming the Civil war Jim Crow laws and the KKK is kinda like blaming a woman for people being mad at someone for killing a rapist who tries to rape them.

You know what nonviolent resistance gets a rape victim?  It gets them raped.

You know what nonviolent resistance gets a slave?  A whipping.

Non violent resistance only really works if the people you are resisting give a shit about you.

I mean hell since WW2 has already been brought up, how well did non violent resistance help the Jews in WW2?


Pacisfism is nothing but a philosphy of the well off.  It's easy to be a pacisfist if your a middle class white dude in America or some other similar country, cause people care about you and few people wanna mess up your shit. 

It's a bit different if you're living in africa, and have the general choice of sending men out for food who will generally be killed or women out for food who will be raped, because your great great great great great grandfather was part of the wrong group that hasn't existed for generations.

Fighting is bad. Just ask anyone from central Africa how letting an angry bad guy "who will gain power but will go away after enough non-violent protests are given" run around for awhile gets the populace.




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rocketpig said:
voty2000 said:

I can agree with you disagreeing with putting the women on a pedestal, that's my personal belief. 

When it comes to women in the draft, physically men are stronger than women.  We are the stronger sex and as the stronger sex it's our duty to protect our women.  I think it shows a lack of respect because woman are the child bearers, something men can't do.  Women have the duty to carry our children and I think men have the duty to protect them, we each have our roles and denying women our protection to me shows lack of respect.  We should want to make sure the female population is cared for, and sometimes that means giving our lives for their sake.  I guess that my views are simply drilled into my core and others may disagree, but I cannot honestly understand how a man could want women in the draft.  I mean, growing up my father was much more protective of my sisters than me and my brother.  He didn't think they were weak, he simply wanted them to have the best life possible and drilled into my head that you respect all women and do what you can to protect them.

Though you may have the best intentions, that ideal carries mysogyny in its very core.

I'm not bashing you for it, I'm just saying that you should reconsider what role women should play in modern society.

Hell, I carry it in my core as well. It's not something that's easily shed.

Mysogyny is the hatred of women because they are women, which is far from my view.  I guess you could call my ideals sexist.  I would agree that my thinking was wrong if I believed that women should not be in the military, but I don't think that, I just think they shouldn't be forced to join.



PhoenixKing said:
noname2200 said:
PhoenixKing said:

It says I've been registered?! What the hell is this?

Can anyone please tell me how to get out of this? I don't want to be forced into either going to jail or killing people once a draft comes in!

I think I'm seriously freaking out here...

I tried going on the website but its vague and all the FAQ seems to say is "You have to do it" like you don't have a choice.

Where do I go to get out of this? I don't want any possibility of me joining the military!

Dude, chill.  If you're an American male over 18, you MUST register by law, but the draft hasn't been activated for decades now, and most likely won't during your eligible period.  So just relax.



Why?! I have a heart condition. I'm afraid of dying if I get registered into the military...

Apparently women are completely excluded! What the hell is this? This goes against the 14th amendment! Women should be forced to do so if men are. Why does America hate men so much?

man up. protect the women. I wouldn't care if i had to kill people of other countries. I love america



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I am avoiding the huge arguement about the morality of war, and just want to point out something practical.  I just got back from a recruiting office and one of the soldiers pointed out something about registering for the selective service that I didn't know.  You have until you're 25 to register.  If you don't, then you miss your chance and can't ever join the army.  You may not be interested now, but don't limit your future options.  I never planned to join, but after college, it seems like a good option.  I'm looking at 20k a year, housing costs, food costs, and health insurance.  It's pretty sweet.  I'm getting married before I go to basic, so my longtime girlfriend will get to enjoy the benefits too.  This beats another year of working just to pay rent in Michigan's poor economy. 

If you're young, you will probably change your mind a lot before you settle down into middle age.  Do not limit your options now by doing something misguided on principle.  



libertinias said:

I am avoiding the huge arguement about the morality of war, and just want to point out something practical.  I just got back from a recruiting office and one of the soldiers pointed out something about registering for the selective service that I didn't know.  You have until you're 25 to register.  If you don't, then you miss your chance and can't ever join the army.  You may not be interested now, but don't limit your future options.  I never planned to join, but after college, it seems like a good option.  I'm looking at 20k a year, housing costs, food costs, and health insurance.  It's pretty sweet.  I'm getting married before I go to basic, so my longtime girlfriend will get to enjoy the benefits too.  This beats another year of working just to pay rent in Michigan's poor economy. 

If you're young, you will probably change your mind a lot before you settle down into middle age.  Do not limit your options now by doing something misguided on principle.  

You, good sir, apparently need to watch some drama tv.  Clearly, when you go away from your soon to be wife, she will get very lonely, and will eventually begin cheating on you.  By the time you get back, it will somehow be to the point where her new boyfriend is living in YOUR house, and your wife will tell you to get the hell out.



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mrstickball said:

Besides, why are you so worried about joining the military? Too worried you may have to defend America?

I'd be the first to sign up to defend America.

But I'm not going to fight for others to gain power or money in a far away country.



Consider yourself lucky since you have a *heart condition*. I registered too but Im also unfit for duty due to having flat feet. Long story short, people without arches can't sustain long walks, jogs, or running without getting a cramp, pulling or tearing a muscle/tendant, and overall getting exhausted. I know cause my dad told me when he joined the army during the vietnam war.  

But this is probably untrue since many did tests on people with flat feet, and found no evidence. But at the same time i thinks its all BS since my feet often kill me after walking for a while. Lately they've been ok due to the insuls I use. 



imo if polititians/countries leaders got beefs, put them personally in a fight to the death and then shoot the winner.

Problem solved.

OT: register

and *inserts well known Team America: World Police 'tube link*

 

too much fucking testosterone in this thread, and the world too imo

shit, you'd think that after several years of (supposed) cultural and physical evolution we'd be over waving our willies around in a threatening manner whacking eachother with stupid sticks like apes.

but no.



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