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If you leave your modem off long enough it will change your ip unless you have paid for a static ip address.  What happens a lot of times is that someone else has unplugged their modem and they grab your ip or vice versa.  

If the PS3 is anything like the 360 it will have a serial number /mac address type setup and sony can use this to block your PS3 so changing your ip address will do jack diddly to help you.  But if this is the type of hack I think it is which was similar to the old xbox then it wouldn't matter.  Because hackers could set up your ps3 to goto their servers to play games on.  So basically they have a pirated version of PSN running some where and you connect to it to go play games.  Thats what happend to the original xbox and that way you didn't even have to pay for live.  Many many many people decided to do this instead of paying for live.

If the above is the case and hackers will be able to connect to their own pirated PSN network type thingie you can bet they will have a much worse pirating problem than the 360 does.  But I doubt it will be as bad as the Wii either way.

I haven't been looking into this hack very much so I have a few questions for some of you who have looked into it.   Exactly how hard is it to hack the ps3 with this new hack?  Do you have to have something special to do it like the dongle hack?  Or is it as simple as sticking in a flash drive and adding something?  I'm guessing the severity of the pirating will have everything to do with the actual difficulty of installing the hack and not about worries from being banned from PSn.  Just my $.02...



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My IP address does change when I unplug the modem. I used that "trick" many times when sites like Megavideo wouldn't let me watch any more videos because my IP address had reached the maximun time allowed for free for a day. I just went to the modem, unplugged it, plugged it back in right after and connect again and that's it, new IP :P

damndl0ser said:

If you leave your modem off long enough it will change your ip unless you have paid for a static ip address.  What happens a lot of times is that someone else has unplugged their modem and they grab your ip or vice versa.  

If the PS3 is anything like the 360 it will have a serial number /mac address type setup and sony can use this to block your PS3 so changing your ip address will do jack diddly to help you.  But if this is the type of hack I think it is which was similar to the old xbox then it wouldn't matter.  Because hackers could set up your ps3 to goto their servers to play games on.  So basically they have a pirated version of PSN running some where and you connect to it to go play games.  Thats what happend to the original xbox and that way you didn't even have to pay for live.  Many many many people decided to do this instead of paying for live.

If the above is the case and hackers will be able to connect to their own pirated PSN network type thingie you can bet they will have a much worse pirating problem than the 360 does.  But I doubt it will be as bad as the Wii either way.

I haven't been looking into this hack very much so I have a few questions for some of you who have looked into it.   Exactly how hard is it to hack the ps3 with this new hack?  Do you have to have something special to do it like the dongle hack?  Or is it as simple as sticking in a flash drive and adding something?  I'm guessing the severity of the pirating will have everything to do with the actual difficulty of installing the hack and not about worries from being banned from PSn.  Just my $.02...


I think it's pretty easy to hack it. It's like downloading an official sony firmware to a USB storage device such as an MP3/MP4 player/ flash drive/ external HDD/ etc and install it. The only difference is that you're installing a custom firmware instead of the official one.

Then you just download a game to an external HDD with a modified file (if you don't want to modify the file yourself), patch the game with that file and you're done.

It's just like PC piracy... you download a game and a patch for that game, apply the patch and you're done... the only difference is the custom firmware part but I think you only need to do it once so... it's basically the same.

 

At least that's what I think, maybe I'm wrong.

 

Anyways, I don't know why they're blowing this out of proportion... it's also easy to pirate Xbox 360 and Wii games (you buy a modded Xbox 360 or Wii, Download a game, burn that game in a DVD and you're done) and yet those systems are still fine regardless of being hacked almost at the beginning of the generation.



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Jdevil3 said:

My IP address does change when I unplug the modem. I used that "trick" many times when sites like Megavideo wouldn't let me watch any more videos because my IP address had reached the maximun time allowed for free for a day. I just went to the modem, unplugged it, plugged it back in right after and connect again and that's it, new IP :P

damndl0ser said:

If you leave your modem off long enough it will change your ip unless you have paid for a static ip address.  What happens a lot of times is that someone else has unplugged their modem and they grab your ip or vice versa.  

If the PS3 is anything like the 360 it will have a serial number /mac address type setup and sony can use this to block your PS3 so changing your ip address will do jack diddly to help you.  But if this is the type of hack I think it is which was similar to the old xbox then it wouldn't matter.  Because hackers could set up your ps3 to goto their servers to play games on.  So basically they have a pirated version of PSN running some where and you connect to it to go play games.  Thats what happend to the original xbox and that way you didn't even have to pay for live.  Many many many people decided to do this instead of paying for live.

If the above is the case and hackers will be able to connect to their own pirated PSN network type thingie you can bet they will have a much worse pirating problem than the 360 does.  But I doubt it will be as bad as the Wii either way.

I haven't been looking into this hack very much so I have a few questions for some of you who have looked into it.   Exactly how hard is it to hack the ps3 with this new hack?  Do you have to have something special to do it like the dongle hack?  Or is it as simple as sticking in a flash drive and adding something?  I'm guessing the severity of the pirating will have everything to do with the actual difficulty of installing the hack and not about worries from being banned from PSn.  Just my $.02...


I think it's pretty easy to hack it. It's like downloading an official sony firmware to a USB storage device such as an MP3/MP4 player/ flash drive/ external HDD/ etc and install it. The only difference is that you're installing a custom firmware instead of the official one.

Then you just download a game to an external HDD with a modified file (if you don't want to modify the file yourself), patch the game with that file and you're done.

It's just like PC piracy... you download a game and a patch for that game, apply the patch and you're done... the only difference is the custom firmware part but I think you only need to do it once so... it's basically the same.

 

At least that's what I think, maybe I'm wrong.

 

Anyways, I don't know why they're blowing this out of proportion... it's also easy to pirate Xbox 360 and Wii games (you buy a modded Xbox 360 or Wii, Download a game, burn that game in a DVD and you're done) and yet those systems are still fine regardless of being hacked almost at the beginning of the generation.


The main difference being in the 360 and possibly the Wii, you have more difficulty putting the game on the hard drive.  I may be mistaken because someone above mentioned Jtag or something for the 360 and I have no idea about the wii, does the wii even have a hard drive?  If so isn't the hard drive like very very small?

With the PS3 hack it basically opens up the PS3 completely meaning, you can put hacks on individual games like you can on the pc.  Aim bots, super speed, full armor, full  health etc... you get the idea.  If that happens it will turn PSN into the wild wild west of cheaters.  And the main reason I quit playing pc games online was because of the hacking that ruines it for everyone.  When I last played Counterstrike out of 10 servers 8 had cheaters and the other 2 the players sucked so bad it was like you cheated.   So if this happens its going to be very very very bad for PSN and this is the worst part of this hack.  Pirating a game is not really my thing but I can understand a poor bastard wanting to try a game that he can't afford and wouldn't have bought it anyway.  But once you start cheating against me  and everyone else playing Black Ops for example that really does piss me off.   All of those guys can burn in hell if you ask me.

So does this change the view I have of allowing Linux and homebrew onto the console?  No, simply because Sony should have known better than to take it away.  I would bet withing 6 months there will be the best multimedia hub built by the same homebrew community that you can get anywhere.  Look up XBMC for the original xbox (another console that was broke open like the PS3 apparently is).  It was the best media center of its time, and better even than the 360's when it launched.  Only till recently did the 360 pull ahead of it.

The homebrew community gets a bad rap in this situation.  And I hope those who broke the PS3 open aren't convicted.  Even though I would like to smash their face in on occasion when I get cheated playing something online where the bastard has an aimbot.  Oh well, its a price I can live with for a badass multimedia center, a working browser and a few other things.

If this media center comes out I dare say I may hack my PS3.  I may even stop playing my 360 for a while.  :)



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qmoney88 said:

Because pirated games cant be stored on an xbox 360 that isnt connected to the internet, this article only further strengthens peoples hate towards ign, I still frequent the site but man they love to blow things out of porportion.  Last time I checked, the 360 is still doing fine.  Not sure why the ps3 wouldn't be doing the same, even if they lose their lawsuit they can still ban people's ps3's if they detect that they are running pirated software.  Pointless article.

This post pretty much sums it all up, and as IGN is consistently wrong, this statement they have made (the one that is the subject of the thread in the first place) almost guarantees that everything will continue to run smoothly for Sony anyway.



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NotStan said:
mornelithe said:

It's really simple, Sony has already stated they can disable PS3's remotely.  Go ahead, see if they're bluffing.


If they disable PS3s completely there'll be media shistorm and insane amount of law suits. You can probably quote me on that. Disabling online is fine however, if it does state in the T&C of PSN that if any of the terms are broken then the user can lose access to PSN.

Heh, it's not my problem, but I sure would laugh my ass off at the people who got hit with it...unless all they were doing is trying to run Linux or some other legal activity.  You forget how the EULA is worded for Sony when you buy a PS3.  You should read that stuff more often.  The court may eventually acquit, but the question is, can a small group of hackers, or just 1 person afford that much in court fees to begin with?



I believe it. Simply because PS3 has better games. Better stuff to pirate.



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