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Forums - Sales Discussion - Xbox 360 Kinect Bundles Outselling Move PS3 Bundles By More Than 5-to-1

libellule on 11 December 2010

so this explain the NA sales for the 360 : kinect is selling the system



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Mordred11 on 11 December 2010
kowenicki said:
Mordred11 said:

Kinect doing the way it should considering it's marketing.

Move doing the way it should considering it's marketing.

ENOUGH said.

In the UK its about equal...

sony have far more ads though when you add move to the enormous push that GT5 had over the last two weeks here.

so... no.

Yeah but I'm guessing the ''real'' huge marketing goes into US,since the Kinect userbase is more than DOUBLE there than it is in Europe?



maximrace on 11 December 2010

I don't see much kinect adds either (Belgium)



d21lewis on 11 December 2010
Squilliam said:

Obviously its because Move bundles cost $399 and Kinect bundles cost $299. Just wait until the Move bundles are $299 because sales will assplode!

Is that how you do it? :-/


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Squilliam on 11 December 2010
d21lewis said:
Squilliam said:

Obviously its because Move bundles cost $399 and Kinect bundles cost $299. Just wait until the Move bundles are $299 because sales will assplode!

Is that how you do it? :-/


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stopstopp on 11 December 2010

Kinect has seem to run out of ads here in the US.

I don't watch a lot of TV but black friday week there were commercials every commercial break from multiple different stores. Now there is ads of sales with kinect being shown played, but not being featured.



silicon on 11 December 2010
Reasonable said:
binary solo said:

I'm confused. If we take the most recent week's sales as an example 1/5th of PS3 sales is about 120K, 1/2 of 360 sales is about 360K. That's about a 3:1 ratio not a 5:1. If we are talking total Novemeber sales then 1/5th PS3 vs 1/2 360 is likely to be even closer than 1:3.

If Pachter is only talking North America / USA then it makes sense. So for the purposes of this site which is really focussed on global sales then the information is a bit misleading unless it's put in the proper context.


Don't be confused.  The 5 to 1 comment doesn't actually fit the numbers quoted as being behind it - i.e. it's wrong according to the numbers, so far as I can see.

In US, I can see data that could argue 4 to 1 (still big whipping) but not 5 to 1 while worldwide it more like 3 to 1.

The 5 to 1 comment is US only for a specific period of time and it seems probable it's actually an inaccurate ratio or 'somewhat bizarrely' a rounded up ratio from just over 4 to 1 to 5 to 1.  Also, I'd note that the whole ratio is based on trying to guess unique Move purchasers vs Kinect from bundles, etc.  In terms of actual, physical units it's unlikely to be anything like that.

The reality is in NPD, US info there's never seen as any need to call out US only, and when people quote or use US only info they also don't.  I can understand when a US based org reports on US it doesn't feel the need to call it out - makes sense - but as you say as soon as the info is quoted generally in a worldwide context it would be helpful if that was called out.


The 5 to 1 rerfers to console bundles with Kinect or Move.

It's not total console sales, or kinect vs move sales.

So it's not necessarily wrong.



MARCUSDJACKSON on 11 December 2010

srry not reading don't have time. im just going to comment on the title of the thread.

no surprise to me! if a product doesn't get marketed then it dosen't get great sales. why is that so hard to understand?



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Lyrikalstylez on 11 December 2010

Move on over MOVE, Kinect has come to town



Reasonable on 11 December 2010
silicon said:
Reasonable said:
binary solo said:

I'm confused. If we take the most recent week's sales as an example 1/5th of PS3 sales is about 120K, 1/2 of 360 sales is about 360K. That's about a 3:1 ratio not a 5:1. If we are talking total Novemeber sales then 1/5th PS3 vs 1/2 360 is likely to be even closer than 1:3.

If Pachter is only talking North America / USA then it makes sense. So for the purposes of this site which is really focussed on global sales then the information is a bit misleading unless it's put in the proper context.


Don't be confused.  The 5 to 1 comment doesn't actually fit the numbers quoted as being behind it - i.e. it's wrong according to the numbers, so far as I can see.

In US, I can see data that could argue 4 to 1 (still big whipping) but not 5 to 1 while worldwide it more like 3 to 1.

The 5 to 1 comment is US only for a specific period of time and it seems probable it's actually an inaccurate ratio or 'somewhat bizarrely' a rounded up ratio from just over 4 to 1 to 5 to 1.  Also, I'd note that the whole ratio is based on trying to guess unique Move purchasers vs Kinect from bundles, etc.  In terms of actual, physical units it's unlikely to be anything like that.

The reality is in NPD, US info there's never seen as any need to call out US only, and when people quote or use US only info they also don't.  I can understand when a US based org reports on US it doesn't feel the need to call it out - makes sense - but as you say as soon as the info is quoted generally in a worldwide context it would be helpful if that was called out.


The 5 to 1 rerfers to console bundles with Kinect or Move.

It's not total console sales, or kinect vs move sales.

So it's not necessarily wrong.

I know.  It's just that unless I'm wrong - which I might be as I just reviewed the info quickly - if you look at the estimates for bundles associated with his quote it doesn't fit the quote and off the top of my head the ratio of estimated bundle sales looks a lot closer to 4 to 1.

I mean 4 to 1, 5 to 1, much of a much and shows Kinect bundles did much better, I'm just saying if he's confused the numbers don't seem to match exactly I think it may be because they don't.

 



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