The What If Topics... Halo never existed

Mise

Currently Offline

3,425

909 posts since 08/04/08

Recent Badges:

16 Years Has been a VGChartz member for over 16 years.
11 Years Has been a VGChartz member for over 11 years.
2 Years Has been a VGChartz member for over 2 years.
A Badge Within A Badge Earned 20 badges.
15 Years Has been a VGChartz member for over 15 years.
Leaving Limbo 100 posts on the gamrConnect forums.

Mise on 04 August 2010

Barozi said:

The Ghost of RubangB said:

The only difference I can think of between the current reality and this hypothetical alternate universe without Halo is that the other universe would still have cool FPS games that make you work to find health instead of just standing around like a jerk while it recharges. I think that's the worst thing to happen to the genre honestly. Now gamers get rewarded for standing still in video games. I don't play games to stand still (except for certain parts of Wii Fit). What a joke.

yeah because backtracking through a level with low health on the lookout for a healthpack is so much more fun...

Glad those times changed.

To some people it is (more fun), and for a very simple reason - you don't have effectively unlimited HP reserves, so you have to be on your toes constantly and not just in case of the occasional instakill attack. In Halo you can tank just about anything outside plasma grenades/swords and regain your energy by jerking off behind the nearest corner.

And yes, I've beaten Halo.

EDIT: OT:

For me, the effect would've been negligible. As for the shooter genre as a whole - hell if I know. Microsoft would've probably dropped out of the console race after the first round, and shooters would've been fewer, further between and not outright clones of each other.

Warning: The preceding message may or may not have included sarcasm, cynicism, irony, full stops, commas, slashes, words, letters, sentences, lines, quotes, flaeed gramar, cryptic metaphors or other means of annoying communication. Viewer discretion is/was strongly advised.

WilliamWatts

Currently Offline

1,382

1152 posts since 14/12/09

Recent Badges:

14 Years Has been a VGChartz member for over 14 years.
Trust Me, It'll Have Legs 100 replies made to user's most popular thread.
Littlest Genocide 1,000 posts on the gamrConnect forums.
A Badge Within A Badge Earned 20 badges.
Site Veteran Has been a VGChartz member for over 5 years.
'Ello Princess! Awarded for signing up.

WilliamWatts on 04 August 2010

I dont think health packs are something people want to go back to. If thats the only contribution Halo has made, then at least it has the distinction of removing one of my most hated things about shooters.

yo_john117

Currently Offline

168,982

17940 posts since 21/08/08

Recent Badges:

Sort of Guilty Purchase for VG$343
Getting Creative 10 video game banners added to the VGChartz database.
Brave New World Added 250 Extras.
Breaking Out Managed to avoid being banned for 1 year.
First Rung Of The Ladder Earned 10,000 gamrPoints
Don't panic dude, this isn't the end 1000 summaries added to the VGChartz database.

Currently Playing:

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (X360)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (X360)
Forza Motorsport 4 (X360)
Halo: Reach (X360)

yo_john117 on 04 August 2010

BenVTrigger said:

It is a simple FACT that the FPS genre on consoles would be way smaller and we would have never seen games like Killzone 2, Modern Warfare, Resistance, and others. The list of developers around the world who agree with this is massive.

Ken Levine who created Bioshock and is an amazing developer, said himself that without Bungie and Halo Bioshock could have never happened.

People love to hate on Halo but they need to realize that without it they wouldn't be getting anywhere near as awesome FPS's.

The Ghost of RubangB

Currently Offline

17,224

9414 posts since 26/02/08

Recent Badges:

15 Years Has been a VGChartz member for over 15 years.
7 Years Has been a VGChartz member for over 7 years.
Super Sleuth 250 VGChartz news articles posted.
Open For Business Earned 10 badges.
One Small 'Splosion Author of 100 forum threads.
Gaming Journalist 100 VGChartz news articles posted.

Currently Playing:

Minecraft (PC)

The Ghost of RubangB on 04 August 2010

themanwithnoname said:

The Ghost of RubangB said:

The only difference I can think of between the current reality and this hypothetical alternate universe without Halo is that the other universe would still have cool FPS games that make you work to find health instead of just standing around like a jerk while it recharges. I think that's the worst thing to happen to the genre honestly. Now gamers get rewarded for standing still in video games. I don't play games to stand still (except for certain parts of Wii Fit). What a joke.

You are aware the first Halo had healthpacks, right?

I haven't played it since it came out. But it still had rechargeable armor right?

twitter.com/evaneldeneller

Sunday Fundays

leatherhat

Currently Offline

25,493

6154 posts since 10/03/08

Recent Badges:

Hit And Run 15 comments posted on VGChartz news articles.
The Nuts & Bolts Add a total of 25 games to your collection.
Pon Received 100 wall post comments on gamrConnect.
11 Years Has been a VGChartz member for over 11 years.
Congratulations on Pressing Start! Score your first game in your collection.
Site Veteran Has been a VGChartz member for over 5 years.

Currently Playing:

Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (GC)
Final Fantasy IX (PS)
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 (PS3)
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (N64)

leatherhat on 04 August 2010

A world without halo? A man can dream.

Time for hype

BenVTrigger

Currently Offline

53,075

7121 posts since 01/12/08

Recent Badges:

So You Came Back For More, Huh? Logged in a second time.
15 Years Has been a VGChartz member for over 15 years.
Hit And Run 15 comments posted on VGChartz news articles.
Making Progress Earned 50,000 gamrPoints
Back of the Net Score a total of 100 games in your collection.
9 Years Has been a VGChartz member for over 9 years.

BenVTrigger on 04 August 2010

leatherhat said:

A world without halo? A man can dream.

Ironic considering your PSN Avatar is a Killzone Helghast.

Killzone wouldn't even exist without Halo sooo......

leatherhat

Currently Offline

25,493

6154 posts since 10/03/08

Recent Badges:

50 in One Add a total of 50 games to your collection.
Back of the Net Score a total of 100 games in your collection.
8 Years Has been a VGChartz member for over 8 years.
Don't Forget To Save 10 status updates.
The High Flyer Earned 40 badges.
1st Birthday Has been a VGChartz member for over 1 year.

Currently Playing:

Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (GC)
Final Fantasy IX (PS)
Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 (PS3)
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask (N64)

leatherhat on 04 August 2010

BenVTrigger said:

leatherhat said:

A world without halo? A man can dream.

Ironic considering your PSN Avatar is a Killzone Helghast.

Killzone wouldn't even exist without Halo sooo......

I'd totally be cool with that. I just like the helghast look. And without halo the gaming world would be a much better place.

Time for hype

Goddbless

Currently Offline

12,438

3209 posts since 19/04/07

Recent Badges:

Site Veteran Has been a VGChartz member for over 5 years.
Open For Business Earned 10 badges.
Harvest Time Logged in at the start of Spring.
The High Flyer Earned 40 badges.
Man or Robot? Managed to avoid being banned for 10 years.
Ride Into the Sunset Managed to avoid being banned for 3 months.

Currently Playing:

Gears of War: Judgment (X360)
Asura's Wrath (X360)
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 (X360)
Sonic Generations (X360)

Goddbless on 04 August 2010

I probably wouldn't play games as much as I do now. I would probably have a Wii just to play old Mario games once in a blue.

Love the product, not the company. They love your money, not you.

_{-TheRealMafoo}

Reasonable

Currently Offline

24,971

6943 posts since 17/01/08

Recent Badges:

Watch Your Back! Received 10,000 profile views.
Back of the Net Score a total of 100 games in your collection.
Right Tool for the Right Tool Score a total of 25 games in your collection.
8 Years Has been a VGChartz member for over 8 years.
Pon Received 100 wall post comments on gamrConnect.
9 Years Has been a VGChartz member for over 9 years.

Currently Playing:

Gran Turismo 5 (PS3)
The ICO & Shadow of the Colossus Collection (PS3)
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception (PS3)
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (PC)

Reasonable on 04 August 2010

Pretty leading "What if".

Given Halo is widely acknowledged with driving Xbox sales and giving MS the lead in online FPS on consoles it's fairly likely that, unless MS where very lucky, without Halo they'd probably have failed to make enough gains in the videogame market.

I suspect FPS/Online would have come to consoles anyway, but without Halo it would have taken a lot longer.

You've gotta give MS credit for buying up Halo / Bungie as just what they needed for the Xbox. The game literally made the console.

Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...