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Reach said:
BenVTrigger said:

i hear on N4G that Reach special edition is in the works...dont know if its true but probably is...

GameStop dude , please tell me that u are not serious when u are saying that kinect is having massive pre orders :/ this is bad...

no I'm not kidding at all.  Honestly though we are seeing very few core gamers pre-ordering Kinect so far, its leaning almost entirely to the casual or female markets.  In fact I would say 90% of its sales are going to that market.  Lots of parents picking them up for youger kids.  Also our number 1 pre-ordered Kinect game is Kinectimls.  Not sure how the rest of the country is fairing, my numbers are based off of one state so things could be different in other markets mind you. 

Videogames are lost then... Kinectimals... what a shame... Well im seeing that kinect will be a sucess and Microsoft will probably go Next Gen with kinect in mind wich isnt very good...

Hey as long as we keep gettin amazing core games like Fable, Gears, Halo and others then there is no reason to worry.



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sony - the cool kids last stand. :(


I wouldn't agree with that at all.  In fact I would say that this gen the 360 is much more like the PS2 was last gen while the PS3 is more like the original Xbox.  Just because we are selling a bunch of casual games doesn't mean that core gamers aren't still coming in and buying the crap out of awesome core games.  Its just it appears MS found a nice middle of the road where they appeal to both markets. 

but either way we are getting off topic. 



kitler53 said:
Reach said:
BenVTrigger said:

i hear on N4G that Reach special edition is in the works...dont know if its true but probably is...

GameStop dude , please tell me that u are not serious when u are saying that kinect is having massive pre orders :/ this is bad...

no I'm not kidding at all.  Honestly though we are seeing very few core gamers pre-ordering Kinect so far, its leaning almost entirely to the casual or female markets.  In fact I would say 90% of its sales are going to that market.  Lots of parents picking them up for youger kids.  Also our number 1 pre-ordered Kinect game is Kinectimls.  Not sure how the rest of the country is fairing, my numbers are based off of one state so things could be different in other markets mind you. 

Videogames are lost then... Kinectimals... what a shame... Well im seeing that kinect will be a sucess and Microsoft will probably go Next Gen with kinect in mind wich isnt very good...


sony - the cool kids last stand. :(


after seing child of eden, then kincetimals, wow, it hink xbox 360 will be huge

and xbox 360 design is awesome, that's why people like it.



But how long will Microsoft keep making those ?? Reach is coming and Bungie is Leaving... Gears 3 is the end of the trilogy and i dont know if there will be any Fable 4 ... Forza Motorsport yes it will keep going ,,, Kingdoms will probably be huge game but if dont sell Microosft will shut it... i dont even know if we will ever see Alan Wake 2 , Kameo 2 or a new PD... Probably Ruffian Games are going to made Natal Games along with RaRe and BiGPArk... well i may be wrong but if Kinect sells alot Microsoft will want Tons of games for it... So Kinect Music , Kinect ... u know...



Reach said:

But how long will Microsoft keep making those ?? Reach is coming and Bungie is Leaving... Gears 3 is the end of the trilogy and i dont know if there will be any Fable 4 ... Forza Motorsport yes it will keep going ,,, Kingdoms will probably be huge game but if dont sell Microosft will shut it... i dont even know if we will ever see Alan Wake 2 , Kameo 2 or a new PD... Probably Ruffian Games are going to made Natal Games along with RaRe and BiGPArk... well i may be wrong but if Kinect sells alot Microsoft will want Tons of games for it... So Kinect Music , Kinect ... u know...

Well lets just wait and see.  I don't think MS is gonna abandon their 30 million plus hardcore crowd.



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That's weird that the 360 sold the most hardware,but, was last in softwares sales.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   

Rhonin the wizard said:
PS3beats360 said:
kowenicki said:

360 v PS3 gap is back above 5m....

 

 

The PS3 will over take the 360 in total sales within a year. You can quote me on that one. 

The gap is around 5 million units, a year has about 52 weeks, a simple calculations tells us that on average the PS3 would have to sell over 96,000 units more than the Xbox360 to pass it. The chances are slim.

PS3beats360 is like the Sony version of Selnor, only worse.

 

/facepalm



kitler53 said:
BenVTrigger said:
kitler53 said:
BenVTrigger said:
kowenicki said:
BenVTrigger said:

pretty darn good sales for the 360, numbers would be even bigger if we at Gamestop could actually come close to meeting demand, unforunatly we can't at all these new Slims are gonna be sold out for a long long time. 



Excellent news.  Is this the same in other stores, other Gamestop stores and competitor stores too?


well I can't really talk about the specifics in my job because i could basically get in some huge trouble because there's been a lockdown on us at Gamestop since we leaked the Black Wii coming to America and Assassins Creed Brotherhood and all that but I have talked to all the store managers in a LARGE area (roughly 16 stores) and I know we are sold threw on Pre-Orders for the system for the next two shipments, In other words in our district people aren't even aloud to pre-order the system anymore because we can't come close to meeting demand and can't promise them when they can get a system because our next two Shipments are already completly sold out and they haven't even hit the retail floor yet. 


any thoughts on the new customers vs. replacement 360s ratio.  i just really don't get why this level of demand for a redesign.  if we take the baseline sales of the 360 at 50k and assume that MS had enough supply to meet demand then the lauch of the 360 slim would have reached 317k just in america(a 634% increase) plus we apparently still haven't met demand.  the ps3 redesign only did  around 500k worldwide with a $100 price drop.  these number just seem too big to me.

I will tell you its very true that ALOT of these are selling to pre-existing owners.  We are seeing alot of people upgrading their old consoles to this newer model.  At the same time though we are seeing an increase in new buyers as well since the launch of the 360s.  I would say if I had to put a number on it I would say 60% prior owners and 40% new buyers.  Also to be honest with you these numbers look small honestly compared to what I think it should be doing.  We litteraly haven't seen demand for a console like this since the Wii launch and its first year on shelves.  I'm not exactly sure what has pushed momentum so hard but the 360 in America right now is king even over the Wii, our Kinect pre-orders are massive too which may have something to do this huge rise in hardware numbers, not sure though. 

even if only 40% of these sales are new buyers that still a ton of new owners.  if this is a pre-effect of kinect then maybe i understand cause vs. the previous model included wireless at the same price just doesn't seem to warrent this kind of increased demand.  however, if this is really post E3 kinect momentum then i have even less faith in americans.  it's almost like people want video games to suck balls.

Hey now, it's called Ultra Casuals.  Gaming is different for everyone.  The tag line for the phone calls at my local GameStops was "Thank you for calling GameStop where you can get your name down on Microsoft Kinect, how can I help you?" for the last few weeks.

It seems in the US at least that Kinect is pushing a lot more interest even at the rumored price of $150.



Reach said:

But how long will Microsoft keep making those ?? Reach is coming and Bungie is Leaving... Gears 3 is the end of the trilogy and i dont know if there will be any Fable 4 ... Forza Motorsport yes it will keep going ,,, Kingdoms will probably be huge game but if dont sell Microosft will shut it... i dont even know if we will ever see Alan Wake 2 , Kameo 2 or a new PD... Probably Ruffian Games are going to made Natal Games along with RaRe and BiGPArk... well i may be wrong but if Kinect sells alot Microsoft will want Tons of games for it... So Kinect Music , Kinect ... u know...


Lol you could do the same for sony! Just change the game names!

So many predictions in one single post! There's like a 1/1000000000000000000000000000(...) chance of that happenning!



Will this be first time ever 360 beats Wii and PS3 WW for an entire month?