One more thing... I just opened Onlive's system requirements page, and saw this:

"If you are using a low-performance computer, like a netbook, you may also experience high latency."

I do remember that one of the original selling points was "omg crysis on a netbook". I suppose that the decompression algorithms are actually quite CPU-intensive.

Did anyone here try it on a netbook?

They use it on a netbook torwards the end of the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtwaH4g3Kk4

Can you just acknowledge that Ontario exists (and renders OnLive obsolete)? I'll shut up and go away then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed3InAJhh2k

Paying more for worse is can easily fall under "idiocy."

I thought that you ebing so fervent about this topic, and possibly being literate, you'd read the entire topic, I guess I have come to expect too much of people lately.

Piracy doesn't hurt software sales, shit software hurts software sales, if it won't be pirated it won't magically sell more, it will sell the same but it also won't get pirated. As I said, this cannot be a threat to the PC games since the PC gamers have come to expect far far more than anythign this offers, consoles gamers however have not. Also the console gamers are going for ease of use, not the PC gamers.

lol.

This thread is quite a good summary of user post stereotypes on VGchartz.

vlad321 - PC users = Elite super humans

Soleron - Unpaid AMD/ATI PR employee

jefforange89 - "look at my tripple monitors!"

disolitude - "does it do 3D gaming?"

NJ5 - Only one reading everything and asking the right questions.

Where is Shio, and how come he hasn't posted here yet?

Shio, who is the embodiment of power PC gamer bigotry, got banned.  Apparently it was a cummulative effect of his shtick calling console gamers dirty peons in his signatures and posts resulted in people growing weary of it, and BLAMMO, he is gone, driven into the wall with the banhammer.

Power gamers underestimate how little people actually care to put up with headaches to tweak for optimal performance.  They will pay extra for convenience, which OnLive offers.  They also get very comfortable in their ways, having a hard time imagining a new model would come along, to make their old way of doing things, not be relevant.  You see Shio repeatedly trying to come up with anything to end up putting console gamers off, so that he can hold the fort on the world moving away from PC gamer as their main model of doing things.

The power PC gamer finds themselves in a bit of a tough spot.  On the one hand, they feel the need to argue their current technology is sufficient to meet all the gaming needs, and there isn't a need to keep upgrading, which OnLive attempts to take on.  Then, after doing this, they have to repeatedly look down at console gamers and tell them what they have isn't sufficient to appeal to enough people, and you have to stay on top like the power PC gamer, in order to have the real thing.  OnLive and consoles are a vice that squeezes down upon them, attacking their weak points.  And, they have to keep fighting to say that the current PC model will FOREVER be the way things will be, because... well they are married to it and used to it.

Anyhow, one can argue that the current selection of games is weak on OnLive.  They can also question the business model.  And, they can also say that it is too early in the game for enough people.  This is valid.  HOWEVER, to strongly argue the technology involved isn't ever going to relevant to everything, and the approach will have no use, is seriously underestimating it.

I have tried OnLive and I see it works.  Whether or not OnLive the service is a success financially, I can't say.  But, I do believe the technology will become increasingly relevant as bandwidth gets better, and will likely be of particular use in MMOs.  How people want to argue that MMOs really have no use for this because, "Golly Gee, no one cares about graphics in an MMO" is pushing it.

If they get it to be $50 or less, and then work out deals with cable companies for distribution, then that is one possibility I see happening. 

If I had the desk space and a second video card (and a good enough PSU to support a second 5870 as well), I'd make it four in a heartbeat. :)

Flawless victory.

I would mention Intel more but their graphics are worse (and CPUs better, but that's not relevant to this discussion) so they don't prove my point as well. And Nvidia doesn't have a CPU.

I'm a lot more anti-Intel anti-Nvidia than I am pro-AMD, however in discussions of value it would be hard not to recommend AMD CPUs and GPUs at the moment. Should that change I would stop saying it; I'm not an irrational fanboy.

Given that I'm waiting for my A-level exam results to come through to see whether I got into university, clearly I have nothing better to do than mention AMD every other post on a message board.

And if I say, "Can you acknowledge that consoles provide enough horsepower now for people that it renders PC gaming as not relevant?"  Would you acknowledge that?  You argument that somehow Ontario is the end all and be all for gaming, is pushing it.  For you to stand on that is to say there isn't a need for any updating of graphics at all on a PC.  And then I could say, "well then why bother with that over consoles?"  I don't get the same level of headaches with consoles as I do with PC gaming, and it works.