Most "black" Americans aren't descended solely from Africans. They've probably got some white in them, or something else. In the hundreds of years their families have been in the United States someone who wasn't solely African descended probably got into the mix. Should all those people call themselves mixed race? I'm sure a lot of people who are considered black actually have less black ancestry than Obama. Being black just means you have black features, it doesn't have much to do with your ancestors. I knew a guy who considered himself black, but I never would have even thought he was black if he hadn't mentioned it.

Point is, if you're black enough to look black, it's easiest just to tell people you're black.

Theoretically this should be the case, but we all know this far from reality, even in europe. The reason Europe in general dont have affirmative action is not because they are not racists, but because the % of black people in continental europe is tiny [comparative to USA]. The benefit therefore of implementing affirmative action, be it economic or social,  is not worth the effort/costs.

Affirmative action is not perfect, but for America, the economic & social benefits of affirmative actions far exceeds the benefits of not having one in place. It doesnt mean that they are any more racist than Europe.

yeah then after that we need love,peace,harmony and good will toward men too.

Sure do. 

But point is, it's certainly possible to be a black Caucasin or Asian (because you're 1/4 - 1/8 African or East Asian) or a white African or east Asian (1/4 to 1/8 Caucasin or Asian or fair east Indian).    In the Caribbean and South America the races are so mixed it's almost pointless to call them anything other than Jamaican or Brazilian (etc).

In the end Obama is American, pure and simple, but yes, he is a black American due to skin tone but not a Black man but it's still very significant that no one of African descent has ever achieved such status before so that's why it's so noted.

Well his skin's black, his wife's black, his father was black, his kids are black, his name's African, he was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, and he's the first black president of the U.S., that's how I know he's black.

Why would you try to take away a man's blackness on a technicality?

In American biology classes pre-60's, students were taught that black skin was a dominant trait while white skin was recessive. Thus, a white person is from two white parents while two black parents or one black and one white parent would produce a black person.

Even though this was a long time ago, the idea still lingers, not to memtion that many of the people taught this are still alive.

in america thats just how it is. what ever color your skin is is how most here in america see you.

Cute response, but when 25% of the French born, northern African decended, college graduates are unemployed you have a problem.  Studies have even been conducted where applications were submitted with similar degrees with the only real difference being the applicants name.  One had an ethic French name and the other North African and a greatly disproportionate amount of the time, the applicant with an African name, did not even get an interview or a call back.  So, is that part of your "unintegrated" population?  I consider domestic born college graduates to be pretty good citizens, don't you?

Current US unemployement statistics put latino men at 12%, which is higher than the white male 9%, but no where near as disproportionate as French statistics.

I certainly dont contend that there is little racial discrimination in the US but the approach here is to attept to shrink that divide by acknoledging it's there.  France sticks its head in the sand and even refuses to collect racial data while discrimination against it's minorities is rife.

It's true... and to make a comparison... Since Latio 9 to 12% is our worst...

8.3 to 18.2... in the UK.  A place i'd consider much less racist.  I thought it was the same.... but I guess not. 

Now, if you find the unemployment rate of white eastern europe immigrants in UK, they will be through the roof! You think black immigrants have it tough?! Eastern europeans have to crawl to get jobs.

At least in Portugal, eastern europeans (who are pretty much always white) have it worse because they can't get a job, and they can't talk portuguese. Atleast black immigrants and south-americans can communicate with us.