flowjo said: selnor said: flowjo said: tuscaniman said: flowjo said: lol alan wake doesnt even look that good , what a joke thread. the first uncharted still looks better and there still isnt anything on the 360 that even comes close to killzone 2 or mgs4 , the sad part about this is that 360 fanboys actually think alan wake is raising the visual bar , reality is we all see the in game graphics , the lighting is nice everything else is very standard nothing blew me away at all . I noticed you put that you own a 360. I highly doubt you do and if you do why do you try your hardest to bash it? Alan Wake does look that good and it does compare you the best of the PS3. If it didn't then we wouldn't even be having this discussion would we? i do have a 360 flowjo69 gamertag lol,  but im not at all biased about it , i know that the ps3 is an overall more powerful rendering machine plus it has bluray which makes for much larger games , see i know alan wake looks good but i also know that it doesnt look better than even the first uncharted which was in 2007 and uncharted 2 looks leagues better than the first so im trying my hardest not to post about these blatant biased views but its really hard when i know its not the truth . So your so confident you'll bet control over your sig for a year that Alan Wake gets critical acclaim from more than 10 reviewers it is best graphics this gen?   dude sure lol ill bet whatever , yes it looks good but best this gen is just crazy talk lol , dude god of war 3 puts it to shame man , have you played gow3?? now that game blew my mnd visually , alan wake isnt

Only for a bit. Watched it though. GOW3 sometimes looks awesome, other times not so awesome. Uncharted 2 is PS3's best imo, it's more consistantly good. But Alan Wake is the closest to realtime environments in the dark Ive ever seen. And that sun off the water. No game has ever looked like that.

I don't believe it, Cliff B is just one to say its about maxed out, In 5 years they would of made a engine to look better, Mass Effect 2 looked good but still not a top contender among the 2 HD consoles. People need to face it, The 360 is a great gaming system, but its not going to pull off PS3 top notch graphics,

 

Also, none of the games announced for 360 this year can hold a flame to uncharted 2 or killzone 2. Now that god of war 3 makes those 2 games look last generation, you can guess what it does to 360 exclusives.

 

anyways i dont care to keep responding i know what i see and i dont agree with you and you dont agree with me so whatever enjoy alan wake i know i wont be buying it , honestly i was going to but graphics dont make a game and everything else isnt grabbing me like i hoped

zgamer5 said: god when will you people learn, yes a better engine will help visually, but it's the power of the console which makes the difrence. like i've said many times the ps3 is more powerful then the 360 that's why exclusives have better graphics. if exclusive games for both consoles used the same engine, the ps3 exclusives would still look better.

Your wrong. I'm sorry but if you know about the entire system as a unit, your wrong. On the evidence of what you believe, what are you gonna do and say when the 2nd big budget 360 engine ever gets critical acclaim for best graphics? PS3 has had alot of only PS3 engines from 1st party. AW is 360's 2nd. Big budget I'm talking. So theoretically the 360 has alot of room left untapped. I cant wait to see Remedys 2nd game.

selnor said: flowjo said: tuscaniman said: flowjo said: lol alan wake doesnt even look that good , what a joke thread. the first uncharted still looks better and there still isnt anything on the 360 that even comes close to killzone 2 or mgs4 , the sad part about this is that 360 fanboys actually think alan wake is raising the visual bar , reality is we all see the in game graphics , the lighting is nice everything else is very standard nothing blew me away at all . I noticed you put that you own a 360. I highly doubt you do and if you do why do you try your hardest to bash it? Alan Wake does look that good and it does compare you the best of the PS3. If it didn't then we wouldn't even be having this discussion would we? i do have a 360 flowjo69 gamertag lol,  but im not at all biased about it , i know that the ps3 is an overall more powerful rendering machine plus it has bluray which makes for much larger games , see i know alan wake looks good but i also know that it doesnt look better than even the first uncharted which was in 2007 and uncharted 2 looks leagues better than the first so im trying my hardest not to post about these blatant biased views but its really hard when i know its not the truth . So your so confident you'll bet control over your sig for a year that Alan Wake gets critical acclaim from more than 10 reviewers it is best graphics this gen?

look i'm not here to bash or anythign but he makes a point, the PS3 does have more power then the 360, does it seem logical that Alan wake will have better visuals then GOW3? if it came in 2012 it would probably have, but let's face it, it wont. good graphics the best on the 360 probably. GOW3 had a bigger budget, a bigger staff, and they worked on it longer then Alan Wake. Yes you can take in the quality of the work. Seriously a Santa Monica Studiois vs Remedy. we all know what the answer is. let's not get over ourselves. Saying Gears of War 3 will have better graphics then UC2, and KZ2, is logical and it will probably happen. But Alan Wake no offense but it's usually the "big" and hyped games which break records visually.

selnor said: flowjo said: selnor said: flowjo said: tuscaniman said: flowjo said: lol alan wake doesnt even look that good , what a joke thread. the first uncharted still looks better and there still isnt anything on the 360 that even comes close to killzone 2 or mgs4 , the sad part about this is that 360 fanboys actually think alan wake is raising the visual bar , reality is we all see the in game graphics , the lighting is nice everything else is very standard nothing blew me away at all . I noticed you put that you own a 360. I highly doubt you do and if you do why do you try your hardest to bash it? Alan Wake does look that good and it does compare you the best of the PS3. If it didn't then we wouldn't even be having this discussion would we? i do have a 360 flowjo69 gamertag lol,  but im not at all biased about it , i know that the ps3 is an overall more powerful rendering machine plus it has bluray which makes for much larger games , see i know alan wake looks good but i also know that it doesnt look better than even the first uncharted which was in 2007 and uncharted 2 looks leagues better than the first so im trying my hardest not to post about these blatant biased views but its really hard when i know its not the truth . So your so confident you'll bet control over your sig for a year that Alan Wake gets critical acclaim from more than 10 reviewers it is best graphics this gen?   dude sure lol ill bet whatever , yes it looks good but best this gen is just crazy talk lol , dude god of war 3 puts it to shame man , have you played gow3?? now that game blew my mnd visually , alan wake isnt Only for a bit. Watched it though. GOW3 sometimes looks awesome, other times not so awesome. Uncharted 2 is PS3's best imo, it's more consistantly good. But Alan Wake is the closest to realtime environments in the dark Ive ever seen. And that sun off the water. No game has ever looked like that.

I'd say about 60% of God of War 3 was awesome and the rest of it was damn good, visually anyways, the problem with that game isn't the visuals, the visuals is something I have yet to see on the 360, the problem with that game is that it got kinda anti-climatic towards the end, you'd expect more when the game started out so strong, so the limitations were time and final scripting, not so much the visuals since it has exceeded my expecatations for a console game just like Uncharted 2 has.

zgamer5 said: selnor said: flowjo said: tuscaniman said: flowjo said: lol alan wake doesnt even look that good , what a joke thread. the first uncharted still looks better and there still isnt anything on the 360 that even comes close to killzone 2 or mgs4 , the sad part about this is that 360 fanboys actually think alan wake is raising the visual bar , reality is we all see the in game graphics , the lighting is nice everything else is very standard nothing blew me away at all . I noticed you put that you own a 360. I highly doubt you do and if you do why do you try your hardest to bash it? Alan Wake does look that good and it does compare you the best of the PS3. If it didn't then we wouldn't even be having this discussion would we? i do have a 360 flowjo69 gamertag lol,  but im not at all biased about it , i know that the ps3 is an overall more powerful rendering machine plus it has bluray which makes for much larger games , see i know alan wake looks good but i also know that it doesnt look better than even the first uncharted which was in 2007 and uncharted 2 looks leagues better than the first so im trying my hardest not to post about these blatant biased views but its really hard when i know its not the truth . So your so confident you'll bet control over your sig for a year that Alan Wake gets critical acclaim from more than 10 reviewers it is best graphics this gen? look i'm not here to bash or anythign but he makes a point, the PS3 does have more power then the 360, does it seem logical that Alan wake will have better visuals then GOW3? if it came in 2012 it would probably have, but let's face it, it wont. good graphics the best on the 360 probably. GOW3 had a bigger budget, a bigger staff, and they worked on it longer then Alan Wake. Yes you can take in the quality of the work. Seriously a Santa Monica Studiois vs Remedy. we all know what the answer is. let's not get over ourselves. Saying Gears of War 3 will have better graphics then UC2, and KZ2, is logical and it will probably happen. But Alan Wake no offense but it's usually the "big" and hyped games which break records visually.

As a whole system your wrong. You are so caught up in Sony's original hype it's awash. They are basically level pegging. Because visually speaking belive it or not each console actually has strengths over each other. And the way theat both are designed from Memory to raw power is that in the end they are pretty equal. The 360 should end the generation with a better quality image, this due to a feature set on the GPU ( software written ) that PS3 can never have. And PS3 should end with probably better AI or physics. But in the end we are talking paper lines to the distance between the 2.If you think otherwise I think you are gonna be in shock when reviews start coming for AWake.
Even the reports of seeing Crysis 2 running on 360 said it was the best thing they ever saw.

selnor said: Booh! said: selnor said: flowjo said: selnor said: flowjo said: lol alan wake doesnt even look that good , what a joke thread. the first uncharted still looks better and there still isnt anything on the 360 that even comes close to killzone 2 or mgs4 , the sad part about this is that 360 fanboys ( AND MEDIA ) actually think alan wake is raising the visual bar , reality is we all see the in game graphics , the lighting is nice everything else is very standard nothing blew me away at all . Fixed. Please leave it to another thread.   no media has said anything about the graphics so far , except that one site gamersyde (no idea who they are) said it was the best 360 had to offer in no way did they say it beat out ps3 exclusives and i can bet when it comes out not one reputable site will say its a graphics king in anyway, btw im not blind and the in game screens have alot of lag its not even locked at 30fps its dipping much lower LOL. Stop trolling. It's confirmed it's locked at 30FPS. Confirmed no screen tearing in both Gamepsot anf IGN. I''ll bet you right here and now, that Alan Wake will get best visuals this gen on consoles from those 2 sites. It's also confirmed that it's sub-hd. Oh come on trolls. It's confirmed native 720p. Remedy confirmed it my friend. The best always get hated.

Where? Xbox.com says it's 720p, but xbox.com also says that Brutal Legend is 1080hp while it's 1200x720 and CoD WaW is rated as 720p (while it's 1024x600).

As far as I know, Xbox360 can't have hdr lighting, 2xAA and 720p  in the same game. So I really doubt it will be 720p (unless they decided to drop hdr lighting).

selnor said: zgamer5 said: god when will you people learn, yes a better engine will help visually, but it's the power of the console which makes the difrence. like i've said many times the ps3 is more powerful then the 360 that's why exclusives have better graphics. if exclusive games for both consoles used the same engine, the ps3 exclusives would still look better. Your wrong. I'm sorry but if you know about the entire system as a unit, your wrong. On the evidence of what you believe, what are you gonna do and say when the 2nd big budget 360 engine ever gets critical acclaim for best graphics? PS3 has had alot of only PS3 engines from 1st party. AW is 360's 2nd. Big budget I'm talking. So theoretically the 360 has alot of room left untapped. I cant wait to see Remedys 2nd game.

how am i wrong, do you deny that the ps3 is more powerful then the 360? i won't do anything since it won't happen. you do know that technology wise sony is more advanced then MS, out of all people they should have the better engine.

anyway i don't have the mood anymore i have to sleep have a soccer match tomorow morning ( i live in Asia), how about we wait and see who's wrong, seems better then staying here talking back and forth wouthought stopping. ( and no i didn't shut up because i can't argue, but because i choose no to)

selnor said: zgamer5 said: god when will you people learn, yes a better engine will help visually, but it's the power of the console which makes the difrence. like i've said many times the ps3 is more powerful then the 360 that's why exclusives have better graphics. if exclusive games for both consoles used the same engine, the ps3 exclusives would still look better. Your wrong. I'm sorry but if you know about the entire system as a unit, your wrong. On the evidence of what you believe, what are you gonna do and say when the 2nd big budget 360 engine ever gets critical acclaim for best graphics? PS3 has had alot of only PS3 engines from 1st party. AW is 360's 2nd. Big budget I'm talking. So theoretically the 360 has alot of room left untapped. I cant wait to see Remedys 2nd game.

See, that's another thing, when you are talking about untapped power, PS3 is much more in the cloud than the 360, 360 is built a lot like a PC, so it's easy to see where the limits lie. If there is one edge the 360 has over the PS3, it would be limited use of the tessellation unit inside the ATI chipset which the RSX doesn't have which would save memory usage down the road, and that'd be something much more interesting to look at rather than utilizing the standard eDram that devs have already been utilizing for years now.