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Everyone needs to play Lost Odyssey! Any opposition to this and I will have to just say, "If it's a fight you want, you got it!"

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dsister44 said:
thismeintiel said:
Well, sorry to get back on topic guys, LOL! But, I'm kinda curious if some of these 360 guys that don't even own a PS3 and are bashing Sony, are the same ones who defended MS when they were banning people from Live. Even though they had already paid for their system and Live. I mean I see no difference here.

You don't see the difference between Sony taking away features I paid for and pirates on XBL?


You can keep those features if you want,  you just cant use a service they provide to you for free



So has Geohot come to rescue yet for you hackers and pirates?



Vetteman94 said:
dsister44 said:
thismeintiel said:
Well, sorry to get back on topic guys, LOL! But, I'm kinda curious if some of these 360 guys that don't even own a PS3 and are bashing Sony, are the same ones who defended MS when they were banning people from Live. Even though they had already paid for their system and Live. I mean I see no difference here.

You don't see the difference between Sony taking away features I paid for and pirates on XBL?


You can keep those features if you want,  you just cant use a service they provide to you for free

or play some PS3 games at some later point in time.

 

People were sold a device (assuming no modifications were done to it) that could play PS3 games, connect to the PSN and install certain distros of linux, that is what they should have, always.



EncodedNybble said:
Vetteman94 said:
dsister44 said:
thismeintiel said:
Well, sorry to get back on topic guys, LOL! But, I'm kinda curious if some of these 360 guys that don't even own a PS3 and are bashing Sony, are the same ones who defended MS when they were banning people from Live. Even though they had already paid for their system and Live. I mean I see no difference here.

You don't see the difference between Sony taking away features I paid for and pirates on XBL?


You can keep those features if you want,  you just cant use a service they provide to you for free

or play some PS3 games at some later point in time.

 

People were sold a device (assuming no modifications were done to it) that could play PS3 games, connect to the PSN and install certain distros of linux, that is what they should have, always.

And when you connected to the PSN you agreed to their Terms of Service,  which included the possibility of them removing features.  Not thier fault you didnt read it. 



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Vetteman94 said:
dsister44 said:
thismeintiel said:
Well, sorry to get back on topic guys, LOL! But, I'm kinda curious if some of these 360 guys that don't even own a PS3 and are bashing Sony, are the same ones who defended MS when they were banning people from Live. Even though they had already paid for their system and Live. I mean I see no difference here.

You don't see the difference between Sony taking away features I paid for and pirates on XBL?


You can keep those features if you want,  you just cant use a service they provide to you for free

And that I can't play new games that are released after the update 



Vetteman94 said:
EncodedNybble said:
Vetteman94 said:
dsister44 said:
thismeintiel said:
Well, sorry to get back on topic guys, LOL! But, I'm kinda curious if some of these 360 guys that don't even own a PS3 and are bashing Sony, are the same ones who defended MS when they were banning people from Live. Even though they had already paid for their system and Live. I mean I see no difference here.

You don't see the difference between Sony taking away features I paid for and pirates on XBL?


You can keep those features if you want,  you just cant use a service they provide to you for free

or play some PS3 games at some later point in time.

 

People were sold a device (assuming no modifications were done to it) that could play PS3 games, connect to the PSN and install certain distros of linux, that is what they should have, always.

And when you connected to the PSN you agreed to their Terms of Service,  which included the possibility of them removing features.  Not thier fault you didnt read it. 

yes, I agreed to the PSN ToS, that had nothing to do (from the large chunk of it I read) about anything to do with the PS3 itself nor did it mention "possibility of them removing features."  I can understand the ability to revoke PSN access, because, that access is dependent on adhering to the ToS which can control the firmware needed to connect to it.

 

But playing PS3 games and having other O/S support were selling points to some people (like me) and removing features you paid money for, is BS.  I think they should give me 10% of my purchase price back, then I'll be alright :)



Vetteman94 said:
EncodedNybble said:
Vetteman94 said:
dsister44 said:
thismeintiel said:
Well, sorry to get back on topic guys, LOL! But, I'm kinda curious if some of these 360 guys that don't even own a PS3 and are bashing Sony, are the same ones who defended MS when they were banning people from Live. Even though they had already paid for their system and Live. I mean I see no difference here.

You don't see the difference between Sony taking away features I paid for and pirates on XBL?


You can keep those features if you want,  you just cant use a service they provide to you for free

or play some PS3 games at some later point in time.

 

People were sold a device (assuming no modifications were done to it) that could play PS3 games, connect to the PSN and install certain distros of linux, that is what they should have, always.

And when you connected to the PSN you agreed to their Terms of Service,  which included the possibility of them removing features.  Not thier fault you didnt read it. 

So if I never connected my PS3 online, I would have never agreed to their Terms of Service?

Honestly , I don't understand how can some people agree with this. I bought the PS3 because it could both play all ps3 games and run Linux at any time. I did use Linux from time to time when my PC died, which it frequently does. Offcourse I'll still be able to play old games, but new ones will just be impossible.

If I wanted something that only played games I would've bought a 360 or a Wii. So basically, Sony stole me 400 euros, which I payed at the time. And I can imagine how mad the people who payed 600 when it came out with the intention of using both Linux and play games feel.

 

Btw, Hi. First post.



dsister44 said:
Vetteman94 said:
dsister44 said:
thismeintiel said:
Well, sorry to get back on topic guys, LOL! But, I'm kinda curious if some of these 360 guys that don't even own a PS3 and are bashing Sony, are the same ones who defended MS when they were banning people from Live. Even though they had already paid for their system and Live. I mean I see no difference here.

You don't see the difference between Sony taking away features I paid for and pirates on XBL?


You can keep those features if you want,  you just cant use a service they provide to you for free

And that I can't play new games that are released after the update 

You honestly see a difference?  Do you have proof that the people who modded their 360's were pirates?  Did MS?  No.  They just knew they had modded their system, which as far as I know is not illegal.  Who knows why they did it.  Maybe to use HDD that MS didn't put out themselves.  Or to run Linux.  It doesn't really matter, they were refused a feature from MS, one they actually pay for (unlike PSN).  Or even worse, what about the banning of third-party memory cards just because they could POSSIBLY use them to hack the system.  Of course, this just hurts those who used them justly.  There is no difference.



thismeintiel said:

You honestly see a difference?  Do you have proof that the people who modded their 360's were pirates?  Did MS?  No.  They just knew they had modded their system, which as far as I know is not illegal.  Who knows why they did it.  Maybe to use HDD that MS didn't put out themselves.  Or to run Linux.  It doesn't really matter, they were refused a feature from MS, one they actually pay for (unlike PSN).  Or even worse, what about the banning of third-party memory cards just because they could POSSIBLY use them to hack the system.  Of course, this just hurts those who used them justly.  There is no difference.

First let's make sure we are on the same page. Are you talking about when MS locked people out of their hard drives?

And you are asking for proof on how MS knew they were hacking? Well, I don't know the fact that they were all playing CoD: Modern Warfare 2, two weeks before release had something to do with it...

And are you really comparing the removal of something that was originally on consoles to the removal of an unauthorized third party memory card?