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Games4Fun on 06 March 2010
FreeTalkLive said:
My understanding is that even with an ad blocker, there is still a permanent ad on the right and left sides of the screen. Plus, an ad on the top. Additionally, when someone first comes to the site, there is often a full page ad. Also, when someone first comes to the site, there is often a pop up full page ad.

My blockers block the full page ad's it just shows me a big F. in a grey circle, If I wish to see it I can click the F, other then that it stays blocked. That goes for almost all the videos and everything else people post and from the ad's.



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markers on 06 March 2010

Oh thats too bad...



Mise on 06 March 2010

Keep the ads reasonable, and I don't have to block them.

That's my take on this.



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A Bad Clown on 06 March 2010

I wouldn't be using it if I didn't get "Warning: Your Computer has been infected" everytime I dont have Ad Blocking on.



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Cobretti2 on 06 March 2010
rendo said:
ioi said:
rendo said:
ioi said:
rendo said:
I understand the analogy just fine. There are subscription sites, and free sites. It's free to users, not those who run it. Which is why the restaurant analogy doesn't work. Both site types have overhead costs, but one charges for its content. We're not being charged to view a free site, we're charged to view a subscription based site. It's expecting people using the free service to pay for it when they aren't forced to.

You're being charged, just not in dollars. Think of ad views as the currency instead then you can see how the analogy works.

There's no expectation to pay or provide currency though... Free site.... I think we're having a communication break down.  I say potato, you say view ads. :P

No, you're seeing "value" as being dollars, I'm saying dollars are just one representation of value. That is all money is afterall, a representation of wealth or value.

I'm saying that rather than paying dollars, you pay via a small amount of inconvenience to view an ad. That ad view has a value much like a dollar bill does, and we can redeem that ad view via an advertiser who is willing to exchange it for dollars to reach a small percentage of you guys.

It's not a communication breakdown, just that a very good analogy went over your head because you read it too literally rather than understanding the underlying point that is trying to be made.

 

Sorry, the analogy is terrible.  I'm sorry it went over your head.  I mentioned it to the wife and she said it's terrible too and that it's more like not tipping after eating at a restaurant, but what do women know?

 

we don't tip in Australia. so this analogy would fail haha.

 

However I got a suspicious feeling that tipping is making its way into this country.



 

 

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rendo on 06 March 2010

Australia has the right idea then. Excellent service should be part of the cost, not an additional cost. ;)



Mendicate Bias on 06 March 2010

In the past this website has had some of the most intrusive and annoying ads I have ever had the displeasure of seeing. The browser would literally crash if I opened more than one tab the advertisements were so horrible.

Recently it has gotten a lot better but when you barrage people with ads that are not only annoying but actually crash browsers then you can expect them to ad block. Even if the intrusives ads haven't been around for a few months the repercussions are still there, once someone turns ad block on their not very likely to turn it back off.

If you want to keep people from ad blocking you need to have less intrusive and sketchy ads, simple as that. I can't tell you the number of times google has warned me of malicious software on the website due to the advertisements.

Integrate the ads into your website better and no one will care to ad block.



                                           

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c0rd on 06 March 2010
Akvod said:
Oh great, another used games debate.

How so?


Anyway, I don't use ad blockers. If putting up with ads helps the sites I visit, I'll do my part, though the ones with sounds or the malicious stuff do get pretty annoying.



rendo on 06 March 2010
ioi said:
rendo said:
ioi said:

No, you're seeing "value" as being dollars, I'm saying dollars are just one representation of value. That is all money is afterall, a representation of wealth or value.

I'm saying that rather than paying dollars, you pay via a small amount of inconvenience to view an ad. That ad view has a value much like a dollar bill does, and we can redeem that ad view via an advertiser who is willing to exchange it for dollars to reach a small percentage of you guys.

It's not a communication breakdown, just that a very good analogy went over your head because you read it too literally rather than understanding the underlying point that is trying to be made.

 

Sorry, the analogy is terrible.  I'm sorry it went over your head.  I mentioned it to the wife and she said it's terrible too and that it's more like not tipping after eating at a restaurant, but what do women know?

Which part still isn't making sense?

Let me put it an alternative way. We can (and probably will) offer VGChartz in two ways

  1. You don't pay anything to view the site but we show you ads
  2. You pay to have no ads shown

In both examples there is a cost to you and a revenue for VGChartz in exchange for the service offered. In the second case it is obviously a direct exchange of money. In the first case your cost is your inconvenience / time spent loading and viewing an ad and our revenue is what we can redeem that ad view for. In both cases you are "paying" to use VGChartz.

Another way to look at it is that if people are prepared to pay not to view ads  then the viewing of ads is obviously worth something (in $) to them (as a cost), just as the viewing of an ad is worth something in dollars to VGChartz. So an ad view is an alternative currency to a dollar - it costs you something and is worth something to VGChartz.

By blocking the ad view but not paying to allow that (i.e using an adblocker) you are taking something for nothing. You are using something without paying for it. Much like eating in a restaurant and not paying for it.

You make it sound like viewing/clicking ads is mandatory.... It isn't.  Therefore, terrible analogy.



ssj12 on 06 March 2010

well i can say i do my part! I click the gamer print ads, and stumble random articles!



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