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Marks on 13 March 2012

TL;DR

Can anyone just update me on if this sounds legit, or just a ton of Kinect shit nobody cares about?



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sales2099 on 13 March 2012
thehusbo said:
zero129 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DirtyP2002 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

"It's all about quality; it's never been a game of quantity versus quality."

"First party's role is to really be pioneers," he says -- to "really be a showcase for what the platform's capabilities are."

"That's the way we look at it," he says: "showcases for what the platform's capable of."


Answers to the top three quotes then I'll go back to my party chat:

1. Quantity was what you were going for, but failed to deliver ever since the first Xbox. Stay in the safe zone where you belong.
2. You've pioneered nothing but online. Online was inevitable for consoles and MS was the only one who could do it properly. In fact it was planned since the genesis days.
3. So basically a poor mans PC experience is what you want to show off, rather than something that shows off the 360? There is no exclusive that does this outside of Forza 4. The only graphical marvels the 360 has are already on PC where they natively show off their power. Come on Microsoft, show that you're a gaming company and not just a typical publisher.


finally your true face.

I read through the thread and you really came up with a lot of nonsense. MS losing money with first party studios? They reported a gigantic profit in a time they opened 3 studios and bought Twisted Pixel.

The 360 library is the most diverse of all three IMO. A lot of core titles from 1st and 3rd party, a lot of casual titles from 1st and 3rd party (some of them for Kinect, some of them with regular controls). Plus the greatest lineup ever on XBLA and Fable Heroes will prove it again, just like Alan Wake, Haunt and Crimson Dragon will.

The funny part is that you were talking about core titles at first, before you switched to "variety". In a year with games like Steel Battalion, The Witcher 2, Halo 4, Fable, Crimson Dragon, Alan Wake, Ryse, Star Wars Kinect, Kinect Rush etc etc all exclusives, your logic makes zero sense for both scenarios. Add all the multiplats like GTA V, Max Payne, CoD, Mass Effect 3, Ghost Recon Future Soldier, Resident Evil, Bioshock Infinite, Borderlands 2, Street Fighter x Tekken, Silent Hill etc. and you have barely time to play all thtese titles.

Why do quite a few PS3 fans fail to understand that the Xbox 360 is just doing fine for the past years. I don't get why people like you (or VG King) are desperately searching for something to prove that the PS3 is superior. Who do you guys want to convince anyway? 


LOL My true face. Just say it, did I answer those quotes incorectly? Just say it. 

I'm not talking about games available to PC or consoles, but to Microsoft themselves. My logic makes a whole lot of sense. The Xbox 360 experience me fromat its core is a poor mans PC experience at its core. I can admit this, because the 360 has kept from buying a PC, because all their top exclusives keep coming to the 360 or consoles, period. Even Sony is catching onto this method by Microsoft. XSN, Too Human trilogy, Ninja Blade, Project Gotham is gone, Ninety-Nine Nights and much, much more have failed. The top four games....well...top three games now are becoming fatigued. 

Microsoft are throwing core gamers a bone at best. The multiplats are coming without a struggle because third party publishers want the highest profit possible. If you are a Kinect owner, the 360 is king because its exclusives are at the helm.


Wow, Since you're so much of a Sony Fan, what are you even doing in this thread??.

And i believe it was the PS3 that was trying to be a poor mans PC, you know with the Other OS and that, But that failed big time for them.

And MS Exclusives sell alot more then Sony Exclusives, is the're something about that, that you don't like??.

Sony's Exclusives can't even outsell the 3rd party games on their own console most of the time.

The COD games etc mostly always sells better on the 360.

Sony has been playing catch up to MS all along this gen, and thats fact..

Now to move back on topic.

I can't wait for monday to come :D .


 MS exclusives sell a lot more than Sony exclusives? The main halo games do, Gears of war sells a few more, but other than that? Hmm..

Thats exactly it. MS and Sony exclusives generally sell on par...but only MS has the big exclusives like Halo and Gears to widen the gap. They have multiple games this gen too where as theres only been one Metal Gear big game for PS3, one GOW, one GT full game. Im not including Kinect Adventures, and keep in mind Halo 4 is gonna outsell most PS3 exclusives this year combined....

Top 5 Games on 360 Not on PS3 and vise versa. 

Halo 3 = 11.48, Halo Reach = 8.85, Gears 2 = 6.16, Halo ODST = 6.02, Gears 1 = 5.92

GT5 = 7.29, MGS4 = 5.58, UC2 = 5.49, LBP = 4.84, GOW3 = 4.31

This website is a resource and I suggest we use them. Not only does 360 have more million sellers but 360 million sellers sell way more then PS3s. 

And if this is a strict 360 vs PS3 discussion, then its noteworthy to note 360/PC titles that sell in the millions and how the top 4 best selling games off all time on PS3 sold millions more total on the 360 versions. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 on 13 March 2012
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Everyone can argue with me but the key point of the original topic was that Microsoft had their best year last year and this year they are expecting it to be even better. Think about it, really, what made their year the best?
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Let me spell that out for you kids so the case can be closed. No one in here has anything to do with it, unless you are buying Kinect bundles.

They are expecting casual sales to rise.

Onto the next topic.

Its being swept under the rug by PS3 propaganda but 2012 will see 360 potentially not only selling more then PS3 but release more quality games then PS3.

Offcourse im factoring in retail, XBLA, and Kinect games.The entire package.

PS3 on the other hand just has retail games going for it as PSN offerings (aside from Journey) look small and Move specific only has Sorcery.

Lol 360 is now ganging up on PS3 with 3 varieties of games to PS3s 1



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Argh_College on 13 March 2012
Turkish said:
Well last year I can't think of any 360 exclusive release beside Gears of War 3, this year they have already 2: Star Wars Kinect and Halo 4. Imo MS is focusing on their new console and Kinect. Ever since 2009 I felt like MS was lacking in exclusives, it used to be different in the beginning of this gen, when MS had Kameo, Japanese RPGs like Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Banjo Kazooie, now its only Gears and Halo iterations x.

2010 :

Mass Effect 2

SC Conviction

Alan Wake

CrackDown 2

Fable 3

Limbo

Reach

Tons of XBLA

2011 :

Gears of War 3

Forza MotorSport 4

Halo HD

Tons of XBLA

2012 :

Alan Wake AW : XBLA

Witcher 2

Halo 4

Forza Horizon

Fable: The Jorney

RySe

Tons of XBLA like DeadLight, Traisl Evolution etc.

Pretty strong for me.



Turkish on 04 March 2012

Well last year I can't think of any 360 exclusive release beside Gears of War 3, this year they have already 2: Star Wars Kinect and Halo 4. Imo MS is focusing on their new console and Kinect. Ever since 2009 I felt like MS was lacking in exclusives, it used to be different in the beginning of this gen, when MS had Kameo, Japanese RPGs like Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Banjo Kazooie, now its only Gears and Halo iterations x.



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epicberserk on 04 March 2012
DirtyP2002 said:
Seriously, WTF are the mods doing? Why isn't STAGE banned yet. He is trolling in a very bad way, derailing the thread and ruining the fun for everyone else. He doesn't even care what MS will reveal.

BAN HIM NOW. And yes, I reported him already.


hive 5



DirtyP2002 on 04 March 2012

Seriously, WTF are the mods doing? Why isn't STAGE banned yet. He is trolling in a very bad way, derailing the thread and ruining the fun for everyone else. He doesn't even care what MS will reveal.

BAN HIM NOW. And yes, I reported him already.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

S.T.A.G.E. on 04 March 2012
usrevenge said:

not really excited. MS doesn't care about the gamers anymore, they think halo and forza is enough
fable has been garbage on 360. lost chapters was good but everything else sucked
forza is good but racing games get boring after a while
halo 1 was amazing, halo 2 was great halo 3-everything else has been terrible.

what xbox needs is
gears of war RPG, something unique full of action, large open worlds, kinda like fallout but in the gears universe

Halo conquest- battlefield style halo game where you are just a soldier this means players can play as grunts finally, use pelicans tanks, covenant drop ships, you name it. this could be the competition to MAG, dust514, and what could be the answer to the need of starwars battlefront 3, but exclusive to xbox.

Kameo 2- i didnt finish the first or really play it much but it was fun while i played it and i know many love the game. it was a launch title irrc... come on now..

chromehounds 2- the original is considered one of the best mech games ever. sega shut down the servers, maybe a sequel would be helpful, not first party but if MS says "hey make this game we will advertise it for u" sega might listen. oh and inb4 ban on fable comment, because i KNOW the mods liked it, but anyone who has played all 3 know that 2 and 3 don't even compare to the original and lost chapters.


Cool Idea. Some new IP's (not attached to the same 4 IP's) with interesting gameplay would be awesome as well.



Squilliam on 04 March 2012

Pointing out the oblivious.



Tease.

S.T.A.G.E. on 04 March 2012
kowenicki said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Everyone can argue with me but the key point of the original topic was that Microsoft had their best year last year and this year they are expecting it to be even better. Think about it, really, what made their year the best?
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Let me spell that out for you kids so the case can be closed. No one in here has anything to do with it, unless you are buying Kinect bundles.

They are expecting casual sales to rise.

Onto the next topic.


wow, patronising arrogance and bias wrapped up in one compact post.  congrats.  stay out of MS threads in futre and do us all a favour.


"2011 was our biggest year -- the biggest year in Xbox history. So we're feeling fantastic. We want to continue to build on that momentum," says Steve Beinner, Microsoft's director of global marketing first party games."

Heres a quote for you from the topic. Lets see if you can comprehend what biggest made the year big and what will become bigger this year. They are talking about sales, not games.  If 2011 was a huge year for 360 as far as exclusives are concerned, then so be it. I enjoy my 360 just fine, but it doesn't mean I cant read through press. I'm not attacking you, so your insecure feelings need to stop. 


"These strategies include continued support of its Kinect motion controller, which has an install base of 18 million units -- both as the primary controller for exclusive games, and in concert with controller-based games. "

Comprehend and see the bold. The Kinect is selling faster than the 360 did itself. Lets increase that thought now. Its selling consoles as well and peripherals It's already over a quarter of the install base and its been a year and some months. 

"First party's role is to really be pioneers," he says -- to "really be a showcase for what the platform's capabilities are."

You are an educated gamer, what are they pioneering in first party? The Kinect can only be that place.

Ignore me if you must, but seriously do not label me for pointing out the obvious.