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aiwass said:
estebxx said: 
Yes.

Why? Because i want to, i have faith.

I ask this with the utmost sincerity and respect, because I genuinely want to know the answer: 1) do you believe that your desires hold any bearing on what reality is? I find religious faith to be absolutely fascinating, seriously. I see many believers use the word "faith" like some kind of impressive mic drop moment. Religious faith is literally believing something sans any elements of known reality involved, essentially taking a shortcut to a desired belief without going through all the inconvenient and complicated groundwork that usually leads to believing something. 2) Can you offer any insight or does it just end there?

1) No i dont, my belief in the order of things might be completely wrong.

2) I cant, i simply decided i wanted to believe.

JWeinCom said:
estebxx said:

I wanna believe it's true.

Is it true? I don't know but i want too believe in it, thats what faith is.

If you don't care about truth that's certainly your right.  I don't think it's a particularly good way to go about things.

I never said i didnt care about the truth, simply that i dont know if its true or not.

I cant prove to you that he exists but there is always a chance that he may exist and given that chance i want to believe, its that simple.

Also i see you having really long conversations on this topic and i just want to leave it clear here, look i dont wanna have some overly long disscussion about this (since honestly there isnt much for me to even add here) im not some obssesive religious person, and im not even as invested on this topic as you are (from what i can see reading this thread), what i said is really all i have to offer.

Last edited by estebxx - on 24 August 2018