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Forums - Sales Discussion - The Official August 2009 NPD Thread (Data @ 6:30 for 4 weeks ending 8/29)

TheSource said:

I don't think we're getting a Wii price cut anytime soon. Wii went up more than 360 from July, which costs less and had more compelling software released (Batman, better Madden sales).

In month 23-34 (Sept 08 to Aug 09, inclusive) Wii sales by NPD were 9.23m at $250, PS2 sales by NPD in months 23-34 (Aug 2002 to July 2003, inclusive) were 8.10m at $200 - the first PS2 price drop was from $300 to $200 in Spring 2002.

PS2 peaked at 8.66m in month 20-31, and then declined to 7.50m in the year running from month 26-37. The best 12 month Wii sequence so far has been month 17-28 (March 2008 to Feb 2009) at 10.90m, and in the six months since, the drop has been 1.7m. You can believe what you want, but the drop isn't that precipitous given that Wii had a) more room to fall, and b) has a higher price point than PS2 did in an aligned launch comparison. The Wii drops in sequential years (month 17-28, then month 18-29, then month 19-30, etc) is already begginning to slow alot, I suspect it will rest at 8.5m to 9m for a while heading into Black Friday and Christmas, unless Nintendo cuts price.

Not entirely convinced we're going to see PS3 beat 360 or Wii in September. I think all three systems will be close, but the current order will remain intact. Given that all systems besides PS3/PS2 increased about 5-10% from July PS3 would probably have done like 140k for the month. The price cut impact was mainly for the last week of August, so the system probably did something like...30k-33k-33k-114k by NPD figures. For September, you'd expect maybe 70k-55k-50k-50k-50k for PS3 coming off that big weekly jump. Wii at probably 70k-80k x5, and 360 at 50k x 3, + 100k + 75k from Halo 3 ODST. So, I'd go something like 325k for X360, 275k for PS3, 375k for Wii. DS will be 700k, PSP probably 175k, PS2 maybe 125k.

I've been checking PS3 stock allocations locally since the Slim launched, and it essentially sold out in some places week one, but its been well stocked since then. So sales are up, but its going to be more of a spike than a bump.

Hate to break the news but this site (I thought you were supposed to know the numbers here :P) has September week 1 at 130k for US market ( NA -10%). That's a bit off your 70k prediction...

Thanks to last week the PS3 should easilly win September in NA and worldwide ( even if the remaining Septembers weeks were down to the levels the PS3 was last July it might  still win...).

1100k would pretty much guarantee a worldwide win so there's only 550k left to do in 4 weeks, doesn't seem hard.

380k should guarantee a US win so there's 250k left to do in 4 weeks, shoudn't be impossible either...



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
trestres said:
So he's including 1 October week in the September NPD prediction?


  He probably just made a mistake and ignored last week and just took the next five weeks

He's increasing the 360 and Wii numbers while ignoring the PS3 has big games coming out too, come on.

What games does it have in the next 5 weeks in NA that will move consoles?

I'm sorry I should've said that, PS3 games don't move consoles anyway.  By October, a price drop will be needed again i think.

I didn't see any significant software boost to coincide with the PS3 hardware rise, so I don't see what game will result in a moving of hardware

why did you repeat what i just said, I agree, the PS3  is a blu-ray player and people saw a huge opportunity to get a cheap version and they went for it. I hope someday the PS3  could get a system seller like MGS4,  one can hope.

I guess that's the reason why ps3 has some of the best attachment ratios for software sold per console :)

 



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psrock said:
Euphoria14 said:
psrock said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
 

I didn't see any significant software boost to coincide with the PS3 hardware rise, so I don't see what game will result in a moving of hardware

why did you repeat what i just said, I agree, the PS3  is a blu-ray player and people saw a huge opportunity to get a cheap version and they went for it. I hope someday the PS3  could get a system seller like MGS4,  one can hope.

I thought PS3 lost it's advantage as a bluray sale long ago though, ever since BD players dropped to the $120-200 range.

what the hell people buy it for then, i am confused now.

I use mine as a sarcasm detector.  It works quite well.



Thanks for the input, Jeff.

 

 

You guys really need to lay off The Source. The hate and constant, subtle jabs are getting a bit outta hand.



Kenology said:
You guys really need to lay off The Source. The hate and constant, subtle jabs are getting a bit outta hand.

I agree. People need to back off a little bit.



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TheSource said:

Not entirely convinced we're going to see PS3 beat 360 or Wii in September. ..

Bravo, sir. Comments like this are music to my ear.

Btw, the Wolfenstein numbers appear to be overtracked:

Wolfenstein 360: 59k
Wolfenstein PS3: 30k
Wolfenstein PC: 17k



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