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routsounmanman said:
I really appreciate their honesty and attitude towards the platform. And I am still baffled that Bethesda has outdone companies like Capcom, Namco Bandai and Konami on the Switch. I mean what were they thinking?

The difference between early adoption and adopting a Wait and See attitude. Bethesda liked what they saw and put contingencies into the id Tech 6 engine while getting acquainted with Panic Button , the others waited to be sure the Switch would be a hit first. Personally, I wouldn't blame them to much after what happened to the WiiU.



duduspace1 said:
routsounmanman said:
I really appreciate their honesty and attitude towards the platform. And I am still baffled that Bethesda has outdone companies like Capcom, Namco Bandai and Konami on the Switch. I mean what were they thinking?

The difference between early adoption and adopting a Wait and See attitude. Bethesda liked what they saw and put contingencies into the id Tech 6 engine while getting acquainted with Panic Button , the others waited to be sure the Switch would be a hit first. Personally, I wouldn't blame them to much after what happened to the WiiU.

Yeah, Capcom did said that Switch success caught them by surprise and they didnt expected that from Switch.



They're not going to remaster Fallout 3 and/or New Vegas unless they intend to bring it to all platforms. At least, it would completely shock me if they did and it would shock a lot of fans who are waiting for a remaster of those games on PC, Playstation, and Xbox. There is no reason for them to piss off so many long-time supporters and there is no reason to leave so much money on the table by remastering those games for what would likely be its weakest market.

Beside that, the Gamebryo Engine was a mess even back then, it would be a nightmare to bring forward now. That's not a minor undertaking or something you easily hand off to another company. Bethesda would probably have to do that themselves, which would take them away from other tasks. Even if they have one of their new studios working on it with supervision from the core unit, it would still take a long time.



duduspace1 said:
routsounmanman said:
I really appreciate their honesty and attitude towards the platform. And I am still baffled that Bethesda has outdone companies like Capcom, Namco Bandai and Konami on the Switch. I mean what were they thinking?

The difference between early adoption and adopting a Wait and See attitude. Bethesda liked what they saw and put contingencies into the id Tech 6 engine while getting acquainted with Panic Button , the others waited to be sure the Switch would be a hit first. Personally, I wouldn't blame them to much after what happened to the WiiU.

Precisely why I am amazed. Why on Earth would a Western company, Bethesda no less, have more faith in a Nintendo platform than a Japanese one like the aforementioned?  And it's not just mediocre support, it's abysmal. You snooze you lose, I guess.



Miyamotoo said:
duduspace1 said:

The difference between early adoption and adopting a Wait and See attitude. Bethesda liked what they saw and put contingencies into the id Tech 6 engine while getting acquainted with Panic Button , the others waited to be sure the Switch would be a hit first. Personally, I wouldn't blame them to much after what happened to the WiiU.

Yeah, Capcom did said that Switch success caught them by surprise and they didnt expected that from Switch.

Yeah, typical of them (3rd parties on Nintendo platforms). They later blather about sharing market share and their games not selling well enough, though they never like to share the risk. 



routsounmanman said:
Miyamotoo said:

Yeah, Capcom did said that Switch success caught them by surprise and they didnt expected that from Switch.

Yeah, typical of them (3rd parties on Nintendo platforms). They later blather about sharing market share and their games not selling well enough, though they never like to share the risk. 

Yeah, but like someone already stated, you can't really blame them after what happened to Wii U.



Fallout 1 over the top 3rd person HD remake as a Switch exclusive confirmed?



Miyamotoo said:
routsounmanman said:

Yeah, typical of them (3rd parties on Nintendo platforms). They later blather about sharing market share and their games not selling well enough, though they never like to share the risk. 

Yeah, but like someone already stated, you can't really blame them after what happened to Wii U.

Well of course I cannot "blame" them, per se, as they are free to make their own choices regarding what platforms they develop on. I cannot take the "WiiU disaster" argument seriously though, when platforms that have fared worse or have had a smaller install base (PSVR, Dreamcast come to mind) were supported more heavily. Even the Wii, at its inception, was a far riskier product to invest on, yet they (Japanese companies) were on board at the time, even if not at full force.



routsounmanman said:
I really appreciate their honesty and attitude towards the platform. And I am still baffled that Bethesda has outdone companies like Capcom, Namco Bandai and Konami on the Switch. I mean what were they thinking?

I think Bandai Namco has been a good supporter. I wouldnt bundle them with Capcom and Konami at all.

I believe there was only 1 game announced from them in 2018 that wasnt also on the Switch (Jump Force) and that game might be a very likely candidate to make the Switch jump at some time.



Mbolibombo said:
routsounmanman said:
I really appreciate their honesty and attitude towards the platform. And I am still baffled that Bethesda has outdone companies like Capcom, Namco Bandai and Konami on the Switch. I mean what were they thinking?

I think Bandai Namco has been a good supporter. I wouldnt bundle them with Capcom and Konami at all.

I believe there was only 1 game announced from them in 2018 that wasnt also on the Switch (Jump Force) and that game might be a very likely candidate to make the Switch jump at some time.

There's no reason for games that gravitate heavily towards the Japanese market not be on the Switch (Jump Force, Ni No Kuni 2, etc). They might be better than the worst (Capcom), but they still dropped the ball.