LudicrousSpeed said: lol why would Sony stop making exclusives just because of backwards compatibility. |
Yeah those two things aren't mutually exclusive.
LudicrousSpeed said: lol why would Sony stop making exclusives just because of backwards compatibility. |
Yeah those two things aren't mutually exclusive.
Pemalite said:
No they don't. The PC has a game library that spans decades. "Wii has a games library that spans decades, therefore Wii has a better library than 360 or PS3" - Somebody using the same faulty argument as you ten years ago.
Fantastic. Good for you. There is none on Playstation or Xbox that interests me even in the slightest, couple on Switch I wouldn't mind playing, but won't lower myself to 720P. Critics and fans alike overwhelmingly disagree with you. I realize this is all subjective, but you are in the extreme minority here. Try expanding your horizons a bit.
Physical is DRM. See my response to Chazore. Not going to bother posting it here again, but I put 5 different sources that disagree with your definition of DRM. Your argument not only relies on a false definition of DRM, but it leads to absurdities like this... |
My responses in bold. Please stop with the multiple quotes on top of quotes on top of quotes. Just quote me once, and then respond to it all. It makes it very difficult to even respond to you.
Last edited by Cerebralbore101 - on 17 September 2018Cerebralbore101 said:
Yeah, that's blatantly false. You might as well try to say that the world is flat. Have you not walked into a store in the last thirty years? Firmware updates for consoles only happen once in a blue moon. Meanwhile windows can't help but nag me at least twice everytime I get on my computer. |
More than half of the released PS4 games in 2017 + 2018 didn't have a retail release. Are you denying that?
https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/wiki/games
Over 1400 games were released on Switch so far: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games
Only ~250 of them did have a retail release: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FNyvbbU64Pb9lheg28gC_5fMalIYJ0aD763T7M1QqF0/edit#gid=0
Are you denying that either?
And how often does a blue moon happen?
GPU driver updates on PCs aren't that more frequent... and they are optional and not mandatory to keep online functions alive.
Most other driver updates happen in the background.
Pemalite said:
I had the Xbox One X pre-ordered, so had it on release day.
None of the consoles are doing "real" 4k 100% of the time, doesn't matter if it's Xbox, Playstation or Switch... So not really an argumentative point that falls in your favor.
No they don't. The PC has a game library that spans decades.
Fantastic. Good for you. There is none on Playstation or Xbox that interests me even in the slightest, couple on Switch I wouldn't mind playing, but won't lower myself to 720P.
Physical is DRM.
We don't know any of that for sure.
We have zero clue what the final hardware is.
Having exclusives only matters if you care about said exclusives.
Correct me if I am wrong... But the Switch appeals to a very particular demographic... There are more gamers on the Xbox One, Playstation 4, PC, Android, iOS and so on that do care about those features.
I prefer to have my consoles on the TV... And then use my PC on my QHD monitor. - Why? Because.
There is no best. Every... And I mean EVERY, platform has it's strengths and weaknesses.
It's not "almost unlimited backwards compatibility". - It is unlimited.
If he wants to do that... So be it.
To be fair... Microsoft's bread and butter business is Operating Systems, so it's only natural they should have the edge in that aspect, it's what they are supposed to excel at.
He is more than allowed to participate in those threads. - Hopefully he does, more perspectives is never a bad thing. |
If no game represents the so called power, then you are a sucker and have been miss sold.
Conina said:
More than half of the released PS4 games in 2017 + 2018 didn't have a retail release. Are you denying that? https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/wiki/games Over 1400 games were released on Switch so far: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games Only ~250 of them did have a retail release: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FNyvbbU64Pb9lheg28gC_5fMalIYJ0aD763T7M1QqF0/edit#gid=0 Are you denying that either? And how often does a blue moon happen? GPU driver updates on PCs aren't that more frequent... and they are optional and not mandatory to keep online functions alive. Most other driver updates happen in the background. |
95% of AAA games are released as physical versions for PS4/Switch. Nobody cares about the hordes of shovelware games that are dumped onto the eShop, or PSN. Meanwhile, only about 10% to 20% of AAA PC games make it to GoG. So yeah, you are technically correct, but still making statements intended to deceive by omission of critical information.
Cerebralbore101 said: 95% of AAA games are released as physical versions for PS4/Switch. Nobody cares about the hordes of shovelware games that are dumped onto the eShop, or PSN. Meanwhile, only about 10% to 20% of AAA PC games make it to GoG. So yeah, you are technically correct, but still making statements intended to deceive by omission of critical information. |
Ah, the "game x doesn't count" argument for shifting goalposts... how predictable.
DonFerrari said: Sorry man, but most people don't buy 5 year+ old games constantly and play them. We have seem much on how much gamers cared when PS3 lost B/C, when PS4 came without B/C and when X1 got B/C. So you can do all the list war you want using 80's games, that will still be irrelevant for most people. |
I think he still has a point in regards to PC-gaming. Just look at the top 10 most played PC-games, quite a few of them are older than 5 years.
World of Warcraft(2004)
League of Legends(2009)
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive(2012)
Dota 2(2013)(playable since 2011)
PC-gamer have different consumer behavior than console gamer.
Conina said:
More than half of the released PS4 games in 2017 + 2018 didn't have a retail release. Are you denying that? https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/wiki/games Over 1400 games were released on Switch so far: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_Switch_games Only ~250 of them did have a retail release: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FNyvbbU64Pb9lheg28gC_5fMalIYJ0aD763T7M1QqF0/edit#gid=0 Are you denying that either? And how often does a blue moon happen? GPU driver updates on PCs aren't that more frequent... and they are optional and not mandatory to keep online functions alive. Most other driver updates happen in the background. |
Quite a few of those PS4 updates are optional, as well.
Conina said:
Ah, the "game x doesn't count" argument for shifting goalposts... how predictable. |
Shopkeeper: I have every fruit known to man! Come buy my wares!
Wiseguy: Lists a ton of fruits that are poisonous to humans.
Shopkeeper: But why would I sell those? People don't want to eat inedible fruits. This is a market after all.
Wiseguy: Ah, the "fruit x doesn't count" argument for shifting goalposts... how predictable.
I'm just gonna take a break from this thread for the rest of the day. I'm just arguing with the same three users that I've always disagreed with anyway.
Cerebralbore101 said:
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His definition of DRM is a little bit strange but his "Physical is DRM" line is kinda true.
DRM free games on PC don't require a CD/DVD to play them after the installation. Console games aren't DRM free in that sense.