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Do you believe in any god? | |||
Yes | 63 | 36.21% | |
No | 111 | 63.79% | |
Total: | 174 |
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
can't tell if you are serious but if you are then it is your reasoning you have to check |
Why?
dark_gh0st_b0y said:
can't tell if you are serious but if you are then it is your reasoning you have to check |
Funny how Flilix has to check his reasoning when he applies the exact same logic to his statement as spynx does.
Both entities God and Unicorns are unproven to exist. You believe in one over the other doesn't make it objectively more true.
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Unicorns are actually way more likely than god. They don't pretend to be omnipresent, omnipotent and omnibenevolent while empirically being none of it.
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dark_gh0st_b0y said:
it would be proof that Islam is closer to the truth than what their previous belief was ahahha crazy yes but there are people in here that are brainwashed enough to believe this is what Christianity is about, the smart, open-mind new generation everyone |
I'm going to stay away fro the random Jesus rant and stick to the epistemology.
People have had their lives improved by "coming to Jesus". People have also had their lives improved by stopping believing in Jesus. Obviously, both these groups can't be closer to the truth then they used to be because they are moving in the complete opposite direction.
If whatever makes one's life better is true, how do you explain that people believing the opposite things can both improve their lives?
NightlyPoe said:
It does matter. It simply fails to prove anything. And I'm okay with that. |
No, your method is not valid. If the odds of something happening get lower, then the odds of it not happening get greater. But, that doesn't have anything to do with explaining why the result that occurred occurred. If I roll a standard die there is a one and six chance of it landing on 6 and a 5/6 chance of it not landing on six. If it does in fact land on six, that doesn't mean there was a 1/6 chance that it was truly random and a 5/6 chance that a god intervened. If the dice has seven sides is it any more likely that god is influencing the roll? A hundred sides? A trillion?
The only way probability would work the way you're suggesting to imply a cause is if the event HAD to happen, and you have narrowed it down to mutually exclusive causes. As far as I can tell, there is no reason you had to exist, there are more than the two options of complete randomness and a god, and those two options are not mutually exclusive as god can exist and not intervene.
If you want to claim that your existence is supporting evidence of a higher power, you can't just say that it's unlikely, you have to actually establish some sort of probability for that higher power being involved. You need to give us good reason to believe that this power exists, that it has the power to manipulate the situation, and that this particular outcome is what that agent would desire. Without any of that, all we have is a potentially unlikely event occurring with no idea as to if there is any special reason, or any way to determine what that reason might be.
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good job guys turning an interesting discussion to pointless insulting trolling
don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^
Flilix said:
Why? |
dark_gh0st_b0y said: - to the unicorn argument - |
I assume this means you can't give an actual explanation to why you think my reasoning is wrong?
dark_gh0st_b0y said: - to the unicorn argument - |
It's hilarious because God also started as an interesting discussion and went on to trolling billions of people out of their minds and money.
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dark_gh0st_b0y said: - to the unicorn argument - |
You should look up pointless insulting trolling, since for at least one of these terms, you just committed it yourself.
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I believe it is common sense what the difference is, and why his teaching has shaped the way you live
if you are not trolling and indeed serious about it, then I guess it is poor education
do your research on who Jesus is and why I could possibly follow him, and then maybe you'll know enough to figure out the difference with a 'unicorn'
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