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Forums - Microsoft Discussion - Xbox 360 Death Toll Reaches 2.9 Million

ZenfoldorVGI said:
The key difference between the PS2 DRE's and 360 RRoD's is this:

1. The DRE's only happened after thousands of hours of gameplay on the produce, and were due to a plastic piece wearing down over time. RRoD is a moment to moment danger, based on the internal temperature of the unit, and/or wearing down of the processor soldering.

2. When DRE's were widely known about, the PS2 was already far and away the lead console. This is mostly due to the fact that the information age of youtube, and everyone knowing every bit of anything about the industry only happened in the last 4 or 5 years. The first 3 years of the PS2 might as well have been the dark ages of the internet. With the PS2 the only viable console for most games at the time, the consumer had little choice but to stick with them.

3. The PS2 fixed the DRE problem relatively quickly upon learning about it, as later units replaced the piece entirely, but of course, this was years into PS2 production, because it wasn't learned about as widespread until most consoles had hit the thousand play hours mark. MS has apparently ran a cost/benefit analysis and determined its simply cheaper to fix the portion of broken 360 owners who are elligable and actually send their back, than it is to redesign the console.

4. The PS2 still worked after DRE's, and could be repaired at home. it wasn't bricked, and didn't require repair at a facility ran by Sony.

5. This is key. The PS2 didn't continue to worry every time they turned it on, that their console might no longer work. That is why most people dislike the 360. DRE was often a gradual thing, and you knew if you bought a new PS2, you simply didn't have to worry about if. If you buy a new 360, you better worry, because your console is probably gonna break down one day, and everytime you boot it up, could be the last. Its security. The 360 has no perceived security, and therefore, consumers shy away from it, if they know the facts about RRoD.

In the end, the slim PS2 is a fantastic invention. The fat PS2 is terrible because of DRE's. The 360 is terrible because of RRoD. The difference is the PS2 wasn't as affected by it, because of the reasons above.

We need a slim 360, imo.

Quoted for truth +1



I guess people forget that both the PS1 and PS2 had hardware problems. I have a friend that had his PS2 replaced 3 times. Even if you 360 goes RRoD, its fully covered and all you have to do is call them to get it replaced.

Last summer my 360 went RRoD and it took about 3 weeks to get it back.  Yes, those 3 weeks sucked, but I got it back at no charge to me and I haven't had a problem since. 



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ZenfoldorVGI said:
WhiteDevil said:
It must be something to do with Australia.. 4 for my friends have 360's and my friend (brenton) RROD (andrew) RROD and (thomas) keeps freezing when you play in for a couple of hours.

Only one that hasn't sceaw'd up is (blakes) elite and thats cause he never plays it.

Weird thats a reason im not getting a 360

No, I think it has to do with 16 percent over a few hours of testing, 100 percent over 3 or 4 years of playing, imo. I figure its an inevitability that they break down. After mine RRoD'd I sold it, just cause I figured it'd do it again.


If you really believed that your replacement 360 would break again, then I hope you sold it to someone evil.  Otherwise, that would stink to have someone sell something to me that they new was prone to break. 



madskillz said:
What I find the funniest is - one of the best selling consoles of the last gen was the PS2 - and it suffered big time from the disk read error. Sony quietly fixed it, but it still happens often. And yet, folks still bought it. To claim the potential of failure is a reason not to buy a 360 is just lame, especially with MS offering a warranty extension. Anything can break down - deal with it.

This article, btw, is full of phailure and based on rather faulty information. To the poster - thanks for bringing this foolishness to our attention, especially when Legend had already made the thread. PHAIL.

 Now, I'm aware of thew PS2 complaints, but I don't remember the failure rate being anywhere in the double digits...