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stof said:
I'm perfectly aware that it makes sense within their beliefs. But that doesn't change the fact that it's killing people. And I don't give a damn what your beliefs are if innocent people are suffering because of it.

The Church, according to their own logic and that of their beliefs, have been perfectly logical about a lot of things throughout history that has killed, tortured and subjugated innocent people, that has stained the credibility and morality of the institution, and has later been reversed, dropped and possibly apologized for but more likely swept under the rug.

I'm just saying that since this current stance is one of those abominable things resulting in suffering, poverty and death, why don't they just jump ahead 50 years and get to the stage where they tweak their beliefs enough to admit that it was another one of those great moments of shame?

Damn it I'm still arguing with you...

It isn't killing people.

Peoples poor choices are killing people.


They would be killing people if they said "If you have sex, DON'T use a condom it's double bad."

When what they say is "Having sex while using a condom is still a sin and more dangerous then not having sex."

 

The church is not killing, torturing or subjugating people when doing this.

 



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Rath said:
BladeOfGod said:
another "religion is for retarded idiots and religious people are dumb" thread on vgchartz. wow, i only see that like 59754642197536853195 times a week here.

we get it atheists, you cant accept that someone has different opinion than you.

Did you read the thread? It was about a specific church in a specific religion, and not the followers but the organisation itself.

Thats like saying that if I don't like President Obama then I think all people who like democracy are morons.

i dont need to read trought entire thread to see the point of it. Its just another typicall atempt to bash on religion and religios people on this site.



The Pope of all popel !

Gay men FTW !



I'm catholic and I disagree with him. Because he's ignorant.



He is a free man and as long as he does not offend the gay community he has a right to say what he thinks. If he thinks that CoE shouldnt allow it , then i dont see what the big issue is.



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BladeOfGod said:
Rath said:
BladeOfGod said:
another "religion is for retarded idiots and religious people are dumb" thread on vgchartz. wow, i only see that like 59754642197536853195 times a week here.

we get it atheists, you cant accept that someone has different opinion than you.

Did you read the thread? It was about a specific church in a specific religion, and not the followers but the organisation itself.

Thats like saying that if I don't like President Obama then I think all people who like democracy are morons.

i dont need to read trought entire thread to see the point of it. Its just another typicall atempt to bash on religion and religios people on this site.

...

It's really very obvious that you haven't read the thread.



Esmoreit said:
dsister44 said:
Esmoreit said:
outlawauron said:
FootballFan said:
tombi123 said:
Tyrannical said:
I wish they could someday cure it. That would be the easiest solution.

Unfortunately there is no cure for Catholicism.


this

Tyrannical trolls gay people and gets bans. These people troll Catholic. I see that's ok.


A ban isn't just the result of what is being said, it also depends on who is saying it. Why do you think Rol hasn't been perma'd by now?

So? do you think it is any less offensive?

Yes, I do think it is less offensive. Tombi is a respected poster and merely responded to Tyrannicals asshat phrase, by making him see how retarded his answer was. Even though Tombi is known to be a pretty die-hard atheïst he still knows better then to deliver such a phrase right out of the blue. His "Catholism is a disease" response was merely that - a response to one person and not an attack on catholics.

Obviously two people found it necessary enough to comment on it. I'm not sure if the Manwithnoname is Catholic, but I am pretty sure that Outlawauron is a Catholic. They may not have taken it as joke



Rath said:
BladeOfGod said:
Rath said:
BladeOfGod said:
another "religion is for retarded idiots and religious people are dumb" thread on vgchartz. wow, i only see that like 59754642197536853195 times a week here.

we get it atheists, you cant accept that someone has different opinion than you.

Did you read the thread? It was about a specific church in a specific religion, and not the followers but the organisation itself.

Thats like saying that if I don't like President Obama then I think all people who like democracy are morons.

i dont need to read trought entire thread to see the point of it. Its just another typicall atempt to bash on religion and religios people on this site.

...

It's really very obvious that you haven't read the thread.

Tell me. What is the topic of this thread? And how did this thread turn out?



dsister44 said:
Rath said:
BladeOfGod said:
Rath said:
BladeOfGod said:
another "religion is for retarded idiots and religious people are dumb" thread on vgchartz. wow, i only see that like 59754642197536853195 times a week here.

we get it atheists, you cant accept that someone has different opinion than you.

Did you read the thread? It was about a specific church in a specific religion, and not the followers but the organisation itself.

Thats like saying that if I don't like President Obama then I think all people who like democracy are morons.

i dont need to read trought entire thread to see the point of it. Its just another typicall atempt to bash on religion and religios people on this site.

...

It's really very obvious that you haven't read the thread.

Tell me. What is the topic of this thread? And how did this thread turn out?

To quote myself earlier

"It was about a specific church in a specific religion, and not the followers but the organisation itself.

Thats like saying that if I don't like President Obama then I think all people who like democracy are morons."

 

It wasn't about bashing religious people or saying they were dumb, retarded idiots like he claims it was. It was and still actually is almost entirely about the Catholic churches (specifically the Popes) stance on gays and gay rights.



Rath said:
dsister44 said:

Tell me. What is the topic of this thread? And how did this thread turn out?

To quote myself earlier

"It was about a specific church in a specific religion, and not the followers but the organisation itself.

Thats like saying that if I don't like President Obama then I think all people who like democracy are morons."

 

It wasn't about bashing religious people or saying they were dumb, retarded idiots like he claims it was. It was and still actually is almost entirely about the Catholic churches (specifically the Popes) stance on gays and gay rights.

From what I understood about the OP is that the Pope is against the government saying that they have to hire gay people.(Correct me if I am wrong). Then this thread turned basically into Catholic bashing.  I have seen maybe 5 posts that were actually on topic