Ok here we go..
@A few things I would like to point about therepublic, first he started to say that trangentspree was suspicious because of what he said, he continued with his FoS thing, then he mentioned this, which is a list of people who disappeared in day 1, after that he made the huge table that has every FoS and vote of day 1, while all of them suggest that he's just trying put every detail for a good scumhunting, a part of me can't stop thinking he's trying hard to get some mislynch because while the trangentspree could be just what he thought he could've just said it to make him gather the attention, and the FoS and the disappearing lists are kind of weird if you want to accuse somebody, I'm not saying he is or that people should vote for him, I'm just pointing it out.
Answer to the second link
I also need to clear something up about what I said about Falcon and SuperAdriank. Some think I was including Day Two, but I was not. I was just talking about Day One. Day One lasted for six pages @ 100 per. Neither person posted on page 4, 5, or 6. That is a long time to be lurking. I realize that you have a damn good excuse, SuperAdriank, but try and get a few posts in here and there and make them count. The post you made today was good stuff, let's see more of that in the future.
I explained that I didn't post because I didn't have the time, I've been a bit busy and posting in here (unless there are short posts) is very time consuming.
@Now after explained that I would like to repeat what I said in the beginning of the day about the people overreacting about stuff, first nen, sfb and vetteman (if there's somebody else please remind me) acted way too defensive about WoW and Zex's "leadership", specially vetteman that even changed his vote twice when they just posted what they thought and didn't make anybody to change their votes.
SciFiBoy said:
Dgc1808 said:
SciFiBoy said:
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3116764&page=33&postnum=10
Dgc posted this when I was quering zexen about why he voted hatmoza...its not much ill grant you...but I thought that the timing was interesting, it almost seemed like an attempt to "back up" zexen and make me back off.
he also seemed very confident hatmoza was scum and followed zexens thinking that mislynching a townie wasnt a bad thing.
im almost tempted to change my vote to Dgc infact, but if im right in thinking he is working with zexen, then I consider zexen a bigger threat.
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@50posts/page
I made this post at the top of page7
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3115169&page=7&postnum=1
multiple post later on the same page, Scifiboy and Zexen were going at it and Scifiboy made this post.
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3116742&page=7&postnum=29
"1) townie is a pro town role...has been I think every game?
2) you seem to be saying that you think we should kill hatmoza even if he is a townie?"
You were questioning Zexen as to why we should lynch hatmoza after he role-claimed townie. So, RIGHT UNDER your post I requoted mine just as you see it in that link you provided.
I felt I gave good reason as to why hatmoza should be lynched even if he was townie, and it seemed like you missed my post since no one replied to it. It wasn't about helping zexen, it was about getting my opinion across.
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you do know you just admitted to the same thing that made me suspicous of zexen right?
I dont accept the logic that mislynching townies isnt bad for the town, it makes no sense to me why a pro-town player would say that, specially not highlight it constantly?
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But sometimes misslynching townies can be good for the town and Hatmoza was one of those times, first nobody could be sure if that he was towny, he didn't do anything at all to help us but everything to confuse us, since he started acting weird since the beggining and role claimed vanila towny, so anti town faction probably weren't gonna kill him and he was gonna keep confusing us in the next days, he had been acting in similar to past games and last game he almost becomes a big threat to us. I'm not saying that lynching townies is good just for the sake of doing it, I'm saying that there are times in which townies (even with power roles) can be more harmful to the town if they are not confirmed town by a cop
I can't believe how people say that kind of attitude is helpful for the town just because the person doing it is pro town. Maybe we lost a towny but we can now focus in more people than hatmoza and we don't have to be worrying about his behavior.
trangentspree said:
I think Falcon, j0 and Son1x are being too wishy-washy in their posts...
Falcon... you're just continually laying into Sabby and j0 - j0 because he is also being wishy-washy. But the only post of substance I can find of yours is this one where you basically just reiterate everything WoW has already said. You've also been abundantly supportive towards WoW, and very defensive about the Hatmoza mislynch (at times even when people aren't using it against anyone).
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I don't know what you mean by "laying" but what I have said about sabby is that he needed to explain why the confidence of hatmoza, and about j0 I have been pushing him because, like you said, his posts have been pretty much useless and while I know that my posts aren't exactly the best thing for the town, I'm pretty sure that my posts aren't summaries or different ways to say what was stated 2-3 posts above. Actually I even quoted you once agreing with you about WoW being investigated tonight, but have it wrong by saying that WoW and Zex are misleading the town. I have brought up the hatmoza stuff because people keep mentioning it, maybe not in the posts I quote but in others and bringing it in a way in which voting for hatmoza wasn't acceptable for a pro town.
trashleg said: wow, Trucks, you're really good at this game!
the only person who's posts are still jumping out at me is zexen, sabby hasn't really posted much this "day" (that i've noticed) and i've noticed that since the "aggressive" accusations zexen has turned down the volume from about 7 to a 2, lol.
not his usual style at all. although i do appreciate some of the comments he's made about other folk, but then in a game like this and with so many people its easy to find suspiciousness and "hidden meaning" in any statement really.
and where is sabby?
5:2:1 townsfolk:cornonthecob:tagliatelle
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Ok, I think this vote is odd, here you decide to vote for zexen because "his accusations have turned down the volume from about 7 to a 2" but he still posts frequently and have done anything that I would expect him to do instead of sabby who backed up Hatmoza heavily, didn't explain anything at all, came to do a revengue vote and disappeared.. Why's that? How's zex's style of game any different from past games? Weren't you a little concerned about sabby's attitude?
(Note that when this was posted zex hadn't freaked out, yet)
trashleg said:
Okay, Vetteman94 first (i'll do therepublic later if you don't mind because this was very time-consuming)
FoS: WoW day 1. accused WoW of being controlling.
trangent agreed that his analysis of WoW was a good one.
Final-Fan also agreed. Final-Fan is now dead.
hatmoza agreed. hatmoza was lynched yesterday. hatmoza was anti-zexen and WoW.
nen-suer agreed, and argued with zexen. nen-suer is dead. (it was then stated by zexen that since nen-suer was dead, and nen-suer is mafia, anyone he was agreeing with is also suspicious. thing is, since there are 2 mafia families, its a possibility that zexen is in the other one, right? he wasn't to know that nen was mafia, bang. he got as big a surprise as any of us when he actually turned up mafia. dead.)
MakingMusic (me) stated that a change in WoW's habits are not necessarily a bad thing, that it looks like WoW is just trying to get people to talk "under the guise of a possible lynching"
WoW defended itself (do you mind being referred to as "itself"? i dont like the gender argument :D) and stated that hatmoza wasn't helping, and was displaying scummy behaviour. hatmoza was innocent.
Vetteman94 was VERY against going for a lynch. I'd have thought if he was mafia, he would have eventually relented and gone with the lynch of hatmoza, since it would make him fit in with everyone else.
zexen said he has "raised suspicions of [j0 and] Vetteman but "nothing [he] could quote".
and thats my summary of Vetteman. In MY opinion, he seems clean. he was against the lynch of hatmoza for what seemed like moral reasons, who turned out to be town.
a lot of people who died since the start of the game seemed to have been anti-zexen, anti-WoW or anti-both.
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Now something about this post, which I don't know if was intentional or not, to me this looks like a "Let's make zexen look guiltier and vetteman more innocent" rather than a unbiased thought, I mean, you noticed everything that could relate zex to a night kill but you didn't see that when zex and WoW started to "push" about no lynch being "scummy" he changed his vote so they both stopped annoying him, just like nen did, and he changed it again to no lynch saying "now that I think of it, why should I listen to you?". SFB, on the other hand, never changed his vote and sticked with no lynch and he was just confirmed pro town by dtewi (assuming he's telling the truth, of course), unlike nen.
zexen_lowe said:
Trashleg colorful post
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Trashleg, I'm surprised that as intelligent you are you're capable of writing a post as nonsensical as this (and the color makes it all the worse, DON'T EVER DO IT AGAIN)
You're accusing me of a number of deaths. Even if I were mafia (which I'm not), I'd be responsible for one of it (and indirectly, of two, if you counted hatmoza). How on earth can you suggest that I caused "many deaths". This is goes beyond what's even possible, if anything, it proves more than anything my innocence, how can I be responsible for all of them
I claimed I suspected nen, of course I did, any sane person would, and I was right. That doesn't make me of the other family, it just makes nen someone who cannot mantain a mafia cover without blowing it up.
Final-Fan was agreeing with me, and he did suspect hatmoza quite heavily besides, you seem to not even have read what he was saying. As for hatmoza, I've explained my behavior time and again, not gonna do it again.
Honestly, this post is simply ridiculous, it seems you're trying to bring up something to swing a few more votes to me to get a lynch so you can end the day with me gone. Sadly, trashleg, I'm afraid to inform you that'd make you mafia, because otherwise you'd have no reason to do so. I'm surprised at what you did here, but I guess sabby can wait, and thanks for confirming my FoS
Unvote: Sabby Vote: Trashleg
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I'm gonna say that you screwed up yourself with this post (and in a way with the ones that were after this), not only does it looks that you overreacted but also made a "revengue" vote, you just gave the town a real reason to vote for you, you just handled bad what she has said to you. To be honest I didn't think (and still don't think) you are scum but after seeing those posts I won't feel that bad if you get lynched and end up being towny.
sabby_e17 said:
zexen_lowe said:
sabby_e17 said:
zexen_lowe said:
sabby_e17 said:
So you're not going to defend yourself anymore and could care less if you get lynched?
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It's not so much as not caring but as not going to repeat myself over and over and not gonna roleclaim. My defense reaches this point and it's not gonna go further. Why, eager to lynch me?
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You're showing too much arrogance. In a heated battle you can't expect the opposition to go back and see what you've done, rather you have keep the quantity coming in, keep your foes at their feet. But you're just bein arrogant.
To answer your question, I would like to see you lynched today, but what fun is it if you don't wanna fight back?
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Oh, and why is it that you'd like to see me lynched?
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Because of the Hatmoza situation. You were on top of his ass and then tackled my ass aswell for backing Hatmoza. I admit that maybe I did provide him a quite alot of support but in the end he turned out town.
Something else that sparked my suspision was your argument with trashleg, and how dgc seemed to be backing you.
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First of all you are nobody to talk about arrogance, this post, this post, this post and the one in which you said "and you know I'm right a lot of times" (I couldn't find it lol) show how you're arrogant and feel like if you could do whatever you want, all that you said was that you felt that hatmoza was good and since zex voted for you you voted back, you asked why is everybody finding you suspicious but then you said that understand why and when dtewi told you what he thought all that you said was "oh".
You come, vote for zex, disappear and return when zex is getting voted? I don't like that
vote: sabby
I wasn't going to vote for you because I remembered the game in which you acted quite similar and you ended up townie (I'm missing FF right now =/) but if that the case you're are acting as crazy as hatmoza.
(If I forgot something please tell me, I had like 1000 tabs opened so I might have confused/forgotten something)
SciFiBoy said:
Dgc1808 said:
SciFiBoy said:
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3116764&page=33&postnum=10
Dgc posted this when I was quering zexen about why he voted hatmoza...its not much ill grant you...but I thought that the timing was interesting, it almost seemed like an attempt to "back up" zexen and make me back off.
he also seemed very confident hatmoza was scum and followed zexens thinking that mislynching a townie wasnt a bad thing.
im almost tempted to change my vote to Dgc infact, but if im right in thinking he is working with zexen, then I consider zexen a bigger threat.
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@50posts/page
I made this post at the top of page7
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3115169&page=7&postnum=1
multiple post later on the same page, Scifiboy and Zexen were going at it and Scifiboy made this post.
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3116742&page=7&postnum=29
"1) townie is a pro town role...has been I think every game?
2) you seem to be saying that you think we should kill hatmoza even if he is a townie?"
You were questioning Zexen as to why we should lynch hatmoza after he role-claimed townie. So, RIGHT UNDER your post I requoted mine just as you see it in that link you provided.
I felt I gave good reason as to why hatmoza should be lynched even if he was townie, and it seemed like you missed my post since no one replied to it. It wasn't about helping zexen, it was about getting my opinion across.
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you do know you just admitted to the same thing that made me suspicous of zexen right?
I dont accept the logic that mislynching townies isnt bad for the town, it makes no sense to me why a pro-town player would say that, specially not highlight it constantly?
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