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c03n3nj0 on 07 February 2010
Falcon095 said:
c03n3nj0 said:
Falcon095 said:

Still, from those 3 the most suspicious (for you) is the one acting like you, that means that if in the options it were you instead of axumblade, you would be the most suspicious, do you see the irony?

I mean the day just started and all you have done was remembering the godfather movie, somebody mentioned that sabby needed to explain lot of things and all you say is "er.. so we wait for sabby to explain".. you act like if what happened at night was pretty normal.. Don't you have suspects or anything that takes your attention? Can't you say something that isn't obvious or that somebody had mentioned already?

yeah, I see the irony. It's just how I post, even if I don't think about doing it. But, i've said in games before that that's where I think the mafia would want to be. 

The Sabby thing was more like a question, you even left the question mark out of your quote. Why?

I don't remember acting like the night was normal. I didn't just "remember the godfather movie," it was more of the amount of factions question. Although, it's been answered. It feels like you took those out of context..

Right now it's mostly Sabby, and I said that yesterday, that I was suspicious of him. Hell, if I said my reasons you would say it's something zex already said. -_-

So you do admit that you act the way you think mafia would want to act?

I know it was a question, that's why I repeteated it.. So there isn't anything else to do besides waiting for sabby and give an explanation? You couldn't do anything more?

It's not that the thing you have said make you look like the night was normal, it's the lack of stuff you have said, like I said early, all that you came with was remembering the godfather movie, which I didn't take out of context, I know that you did it to see how many mafia factions are there, but there are more ways to know that inseat of remembering the movie, and a comment asking if we were gonna wait for sabby, why would we wait for sabby? to lynch him? He's came and didn't explain anything and with sort of a paranoid attitude.. now what?

Well why didn't you say the reasons earlier? It's OK to have the same reasons of somebody for suspicious but it's rather useless when most your post are like short summaries of what every had said.

I don't understand your point in my night comment. How was it lacking exactly?

-added-

Why is it wrong to think of the factions by remembering the movie, exactly? I see that there's more ways, but I don't understand how it's bad to see it like I did...

You know, if you're overall point is for me to add more in posts, then sure, I try to do that. 



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Dgc1808 on 07 February 2010
trangentspree said:

Right now I'm concerned that the two most vocal players so far are mafia and are misleading the town. I don't think it's much to ask that you be investigated by the Cop tonight. If you come out innocent then we can be fairly sure you are what you claim to be.

And I never even mentioned that you were off-target...

Finally caught up with the thread. I've been tied up for a while now.

Zexen and WoW are the most vocal. I can agree with that. Misleading the town however, i'd have to disagree with. They've been giving solid reasons for their actions and if you've been reading you'd notice alot of the town isn't really agreeing with them. Notice that Zexen's been getting quite a few votes himself. 

This, and how you're focusing on those two so much makes me suspicious. 



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Falcon095 on 07 February 2010
trangentspree said:

Right now I'm concerned that the two most vocal players so far are mafia and are misleading the town. I don't think it's much to ask that you be investigated by the Cop tonight. If you come out innocent then we can be fairly sure you are what you claim to be.

And I never even mentioned that you were off-target...

I agree with you about the cop investigating WoW, while she could be killed tonight not investigating her is a risk we cannot take because in case she's a mafia it would be a huge threat to us.

But you (like more people in here) have one thing wrong, Zex and WoW aren't misleading the town, they have said what they thought with a strong voice tone but that's it, they didn't make anyone vote for hatmoza, and I still want to know how lynching hatmoza was a big mistake, for me he and anybody else that acts the same way deserves to be lynched yes they have big influence in town choices but that's town fault, not theirs.



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Falcon095 on 07 February 2010
c03n3nj0 said:
Falcon095 said:
c03n3nj0 said:
Falcon095 said:

Still, from those 3 the most suspicious (for you) is the one acting like you, that means that if in the options it were you instead of axumblade, you would be the most suspicious, do you see the irony?

I mean the day just started and all you have done was remembering the godfather movie, somebody mentioned that sabby needed to explain lot of things and all you say is "er.. so we wait for sabby to explain".. you act like if what happened at night was pretty normal.. Don't you have suspects or anything that takes your attention? Can't you say something that isn't obvious or that somebody had mentioned already?

yeah, I see the irony. It's just how I post, even if I don't think about doing it. But, i've said in games before that that's where I think the mafia would want to be. 

The Sabby thing was more like a question, you even left the question mark out of your quote. Why?

I don't remember acting like the night was normal. I didn't just "remember the godfather movie," it was more of the amount of factions question. Although, it's been answered. It feels like you took those out of context..

Right now it's mostly Sabby, and I said that yesterday, that I was suspicious of him. Hell, if I said my reasons you would say it's something zex already said. -_-

So you do admit that you act the way you think mafia would want to act?

I know it was a question, that's why I repeteated it.. So there isn't anything else to do besides waiting for sabby and give an explanation? You couldn't do anything more?

It's not that the thing you have said make you look like the night was normal, it's the lack of stuff you have said, like I said early, all that you came with was remembering the godfather movie, which I didn't take out of context, I know that you did it to see how many mafia factions are there, but there are more ways to know that inseat of remembering the movie, and a comment asking if we were gonna wait for sabby, why would we wait for sabby? to lynch him? He's came and didn't explain anything and with sort of a paranoid attitude.. now what?

Well why didn't you say the reasons earlier? It's OK to have the same reasons of somebody for suspicious but it's rather useless when most your post are like short summaries of what every had said.

I don't understand your point in my night comment. How was it lacking exactly?

-added-

Why is it wrong to think of the factions by remembering the movie, exactly? I see that there's more ways, but I don't understand how it's bad to see it like I did...

You know, if you're overall point is for me to add more in posts, then sure, I try to do that. 

You're not getting it, my point is that from all the things you could say/notice/comment/whatever, you decided to talk about the movie and ask if we were waiting for sabby..

Since you didnt asnwer me I'm gonna ask again, well sabby was here and he didn't explain himself.. now what?



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c03n3nj0 on 07 February 2010

^ *sigh*

That is the problem now. Sabby just said that "I felt he was pro-town, and because I felt he was innocent, I didn't want him to get lynched."

That's not really something you would use to defend someone like he did, unless you have something behind it.

I hope we get more discussion on something else too, though. Bandwagoning on Sabby and end the day won't be good either.



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Falcon095 on 07 February 2010
sabby_e17 said:
SuperAdrianK said:
Falcon095 said:
sabby_e17 said:

Vote: Zexen

He wants me dead, and he wanted Hatmoza dead. I don't trust this guy.

If some of you listened to me, maybe Hatmoza wouldn't have died. It's just like last game, no one listened to me, and people listened to the scum and "bigger" players when I was right all along.

So you wanted that everybody stopped voting for hatmoza just because you said "hatmoza is innocent!"? Riiight.. In day 1 there absolutely no reason to know if somebody is or is not anti town, I for one am happy that Hatmoza got lynched, all that he did was to confuse us all and to make us "focus" on him rather that in somebody else that would've been anti town, he did nothing to help us, I mean he didn't even replied to every acusation that was made for him. He needs to quit that kamikaze "I never give up" mentility because him being towny doesnt mean he can act like whatever he wants.


agreed

@Sabby, you would rather let Hatmoza live in the second night so he can derail it and have us feared knowing there is a chance he could be Mafia?


Yes. He adds good conversation to Mafia games even though he can act wierd at times.

I felt he was pro-town, and because I felt he was innocent, I didn't want him to get lynched.

Plus if you don't know, alot of the ime I'm right...

So you would rather see somebody who acts suspicious, has a reputation of being crazy and confuse alive with the risk of being a mafia and become a potential threat (like in last game) just because you felt he was town?

WoW have been right a lot of time, I have been right a lot of time, a lot of people have been right a lot of time.. so?



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Vetteman94 on 07 February 2010

Well despite how badly I want zexen dead since I do believe he is scum. I have to admit that trangentspree is acting suspicious. But I am not removing my vote from zexen just yet. For one, he never actually acknoledges that I voted for him or tries to defend himself. A little odd, even though it was only the first vote for him but still.

A couple others I have started to become suspicious of is DGC and SuperAdrianK.



Vetteman94 on 07 February 2010

I believe it is, but that shouldnt sway the possibility of him being scum.



Words Of Wisdom on 07 February 2010
Vetteman94 said:
Well despite how badly I want zexen dead since I do believe he is scum. I have to admit that trangentspree is acting suspicious. But I am not removing my vote from zexen just yet. For one, he never actually acknoledges that I voted for him or tries to defend himself. A little odd, even though it was only the first vote for him but still.

A couple others I have started to become suspicious of is DGC and SuperAdrianK.

I don't see trangent as acting suspicious.  I understand his reasoning for wanting me investigated and he's right to be suspicious of the most vocal players.  Not understanding the Doctor roleclaiming is lethal is a newbie move (and this is his first game).

I'm willing to cut the newbies like ArkZero and trangentspree a bit of slack because I'm sure some of the stuff they're going to say isn't necessarily due to scumminess but due to simply lack of knowledge.

 

Right now, my number 1 suspect is Son1x.  He was very much into attacking zexen on Day 1 when zexen was in no real danger of being lynched and now he's going after trangentspree who's suspecting myself and zexen.  And there's also this:

Son1x said:
If there are three mafia factions, we are pretty screwed.
Its probably 2 but somehow he (ToS) made a mistake or maybe a role helped redirect to 2 target or something.

Son1x called that TruckOSaurus had an error on the table before TruckOSaurus corrected it.



Words Of Wisdom on 07 February 2010

Just a couple general information points...

Buddying:  Also known as "Adopt a townie."  This is when a mafia player will befriend, support, and defend a townsfolk or other pro-town player.  The goal is to be associated as "one of the good guys."  While they're alive, you have someone to back you and vice versa.  When they're dead, the mafia can point out how they were sure the person was pro-town and how sad it was the townie got lynched.

Things to notice:

  • Lots of repeating each other's arguments (like some people did with mine on hatmoza on Day 1)
  • Irrational defenses of the townie from the mafia (like sabby_e17 and SciFiBoy did with hatmoza)


Distancing:  This is the opposite.  This is when someone will attempt to put as much space between themself and someone else as possible.  The goal is that if either of them die, the other person won't look suspicious and will in fact look pro-town for having suspected them in the first place.  We've seen this in a lot of previous mafia games especially where mafia members went overboard and actually ended up lynching one another (who remembers the mafia double lynch?).

Things to notice:

  • Irrational attacks without real reason (Son1x stating "zexen is acting odd")
  • Lots of attacks without votes to back them (Son1x stating that zexen was acting odd/suspicious/aggressive and then not voting him)

OMGUS:  This stands for "Oh my god you suck!"  This is what you get when you see someone voting against someone without reason and often just because they got voted.  Someone votes you and you immediately make a bad case to vote them is OMGUS.  A lot of what hatmoza was voted for on Day 1 was OMGUS because he was being a poor sport by not defending himself.

  • Malformed case without good reasoning (lots of the votes on hatmoza from Day 1)
  • Person with the bad case was recently voted by the other person (perfect example below)
sabby_e17 said:

Vote: Zexen

He wants me dead, and he wanted Hatmoza dead. I don't trust this guy.