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Then the question is which one of you is innocent(assuming one is guilty of course) as several people are suspicious.



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SuperAdriank, did you notice I voted for you?  Can you explain this change of heart?  Both posts were on page 7, so they weren't that far apart.

SuperAdrianK said:
we should question the ones who bandwagoned hatmoza... not the brightest option.....

feel free to question me....
SuperAdrianK said:
Lynching Hatmoza was a good idea since we needed an idea of who he actually was,
yes it was a loss for the town but now the confusion has toned down a bit...

im suspicious of sabby a little bit since he didn't want to see the role hatmoza had if we lynch him and is trying to accuse WoW or Zexen saying that he was innocent...

man I have nothing to say >_>.
It seems like your opinion of the Hatmoza lynch changes pretty quick.

You also stated several times Yesterday that you were suspicious of Sabby, but waited until late in the Day to vote for him.  When you did, you buddied yourself with WoW.

SuperAdrianK said:

I have no interest in seeing zexen lynched for now...

Vote:Sabby

Reason: I don't want to sound like a jackass but what WoW said is the reason why im voting for sabby...

Explanation?



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theRepublic said:

SuperAdriank, did you notice I voted for you?  Can you explain this change of heart?  Both posts were on page 7, so they weren't that far apart.

SuperAdrianK said:
we should question the ones who bandwagoned hatmoza... not the brightest option.....

feel free to question me....
SuperAdrianK said:
Lynching Hatmoza was a good idea since we needed an idea of who he actually was,
yes it was a loss for the town but now the confusion has toned down a bit...

im suspicious of sabby a little bit since he didn't want to see the role hatmoza had if we lynch him and is trying to accuse WoW or Zexen saying that he was innocent...

man I have nothing to say >_>.
It seems like your opinion of the Hatmoza lynch changes pretty quick.

You also stated several times Yesterday that you were suspicious of Sabby, but waited until late in the Day to vote for him.  When you did, you buddied yourself with WoW.

SuperAdrianK said:

I have no interest in seeing zexen lynched for now...

Vote:Sabby

Reason: I don't want to sound like a jackass but what WoW said is the reason why im voting for sabby...

Explanation?

Yes, I noticed you voted for me, but I just have no defence, at least you asked for questions so I can clarify myself. Though I never noticed I contradicted myself that much but I believe when I posted those two posts (c'mon people its been days...) its so people could question me at that time (which failed, I think)....

and I have no intention to "buddy up" with WoW,

I was suspicious of Zexen after that quarrel he had with Trashleg, but then sabby came and bandwagoned Zexen after his disappearnce, Which was most likely WoW reason to lynch sabby (and that was downright odd), and then I didn't want to repeat what WoW said to vote for sabby so I said That I'm voting sabby for what WoW said. Anyways there was no real reason to vote for Sabby at the beginning of day 2.

Right now I feel Suspicious of zexen on what he said in day 2.... about not minding being lynched and after everyone started voting for sabby he said he did not want to be lynched,

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask me. ^_^




              

Can someone please explain something to me. Why is it such a bad thing if the cop reveals who is innocent and who is guilty on a day to day basis? The mafia already know who is not on their side, they dont need the cop to tell them otherwise. But we dont know who is on our side as pro-town, we rely on a cop, to tell us that information. Anyone that is not mafia is a target for nightkills, because they know who each other are and they are obviously not going to target one of themselves.



Vetteman94 said:
Can someone please explain something to me. Why is it such a bad thing if the cop reveals who is innocent and who is guilty on a day to day basis? The mafia already know who is not on their side, they dont need the cop to tell them otherwise. But we dont know who is on our side as pro-town, we rely on a cop, to tell us that information. Anyone that is not mafia is a target for nightkills, because they know who each other are and they are obviously not going to target one of themselves.

Well... if a townie is proclaimed innocent by the cop it is a good thing. But, the mafia will then target the person, and since we already knew their identity no new information is revealed. So, instead of someone getting killed and learning something, the town is left in the blank because the only person proven innocent is dead.

 



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Vetteman94 said:
Can someone please explain something to me. Why is it such a bad thing if the cop reveals who is innocent and who is guilty on a day to day basis? The mafia already know who is not on their side, they dont need the cop to tell them otherwise. But we dont know who is on our side as pro-town, we rely on a cop, to tell us that information. Anyone that is not mafia is a target for nightkills, because they know who each other are and they are obviously not going to target one of themselves.

Why mafia have incentive to kill known innocent people:

theRepublic said:

If we come close to lynching someone that the cop has investigated as innocent, then he should speak up.  Until then, he should keep quiet.  All it does is give scum a target to kill.  Scum want to keep the town in the dark, so killing a known person rather than an unknown person minimizes the amount of new information that comes to the town once the night is over.  They could even get lucky like last night, where their target turned out to have a power role.

Let me add something to this as an example.  Let's say the mafia let SciFiBoy live last night and killed someone else.  At the start of the day there would have been 15 people alive, one who we are pretty sure is cop, and another who is confirmed innocent by the cop.  That leaves 13 suspects.  But because they killed SciFiBoy, there were 14 suspects at the start of the day instead.

Why keeping it quiet for now is good in the long run:

axumblade said:

While I do think that it would be nice to know who is innocent, it also gives the wrong people in the game access to a prime victim. Later on in games, if the innocent people are all killed, then it makes things complicated once the doctor is dead and the only thing the cop can show is a town full of dead innocent people. This is especially bad when somebody has already killed the deputy in the game, who would likely be the only other role who can investigate.

Hopefully, by the time the doctor is killed, the cop will have several innocent investigations on live people.  That will quickly narrow the suspect list, and it will take the mafia several nights to eliminate all the known people.  But if those innocent people are revealed each day, they will just be killed the following night, and we never get the mass information dump.



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^especially in a game like this, with 2 factions its important that we keep the identities of the innocents hidden because its better for us to have the two families killing each other by mistake in the night, as it gives us a better chance of survival.



Highwaystar101 said: trashleg said that if I didn't pay back the money she leant me, she would come round and break my legs... That's why people call her trashleg, because she trashes the legs of the people she loan sharks money to.
trashleg said:
@WoW, i'll od it in a couple of hours when i get home from uni. I wasn't deliberately seeking out ammo against zexen, it just so happened (honestly) that his name popped up when i was researching other people - and thats from before i even joined this game.

But is there anyone in particular you want me to look at? because there's still quite a lot of people left and it'll take absolutely ages as it is.

I think Vetteman94 is on the right track with his posts on c03n3nj0.  I also think it's odd that theRepublic chose to reply to c03n3nj0 and zexen's posts but ignored Vetteman94's posts against c03n3nj0.

Seraphic was a member of the Tattaglia mafia family.  If c03n3nj0 was protecting him by keeping him off the lurker list then it makes sense that theRepublic would avoid trying to appear like he was backing c03n3nj0 by addressing Vetteman94.  It would also clear up why theRepublic made those comments about the number of mafia.  If there are only 3 Tattaglia family members then we could be looking at the remnants of it right here.



axumblade said:
Vetteman94 said:
Words Of Wisdom said:

Good night everyone.

Tomorrow I start listing my real suspects and begin some serious scumhunting.  If you didn't feel like I suspected you today, just wait till you see the case I'm going to make against you tomorrow. 

Look forward to it.  ^_^


Just curious as to when you are going to do this?  Here you keep asking other people to look into how other have posted but you have yet to provide anything to help.   So where is this case?   It better be something spectacular the way you make it sound.

Well. she did vote for trashleg today. I didn't see much of a case but that's more then most of us have done in the past 48 hours...

That was actually just a bluff to get all the anti-town to try to kill me at once.

After mislynching multiple people, I figured I'm not having too much luck so far in this game.  If I could get all the mafia/scum to attempt to kill me in one night then, even if I had died, we'd have lost fewer people than we would have otherwise.



I felt so ignored, that Im just going to wait til someone brings my name up.... til now, Im not posting.