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Can the PSP outsell the GBA in total sales?

No 63 49.22%
 
Yes 17 13.28%
 
Maybe 22 17.19%
 
Probably not 26 20.31%
 
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jonnhytesta said:
i dont understand why people understimate piracy on the psp.

People don't underestimate piracy on PSP, they just don't underestimate piracy on other platforms at the same time.



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Seems unlikely, though that certainly doesn't make it a failure.



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Sephiroth357 said:
Twistedpixel said:
thekitchensink said:
Probably not, I see it tapering off around 65 million.

THat's still quite an achievement, though, as the closest non-Nintendo handheld was the Game Gear at around 11 million.


But how much was it bought for games? I don't buy the piracy argument so much as it just seems that people instead bought it as just another take on the iPod. I don't think that the number of pirates are that great, its just the number of people who actually buy it for games is that small. Its quite a decent little portable media player or so I hear. I may be wrong but I see it as more a Zune/Ipod competitor rather than a DS competitor.

I bought one for the games, but I didn't like many of them. I bought Crisis Core, and I never finished it. Now I only use it to listen to music.

 

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I think Twistedpixel has a fair point.  I mean, Sony isn't doing the PSP's image any favours by having so many systems bundled with UMD movies instead of games.  I remember when I bought the PSP I used to have (on launch day) it came with Spider-Man 2 on UMD and no game.

Regardless, though, the PSP will be seen as a success for Sony.  I do think that if they wanna make another handheld, they'll have to focus on the games if they want people to upgrade, though.



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thekitchensink said:
Probably not, I see it tapering off around 65 million.

THat's still quite an achievement, though, as the closest non-Nintendo handheld was the Game Gear at around 11 million.

ahh good times i still have my game gear lol but on topic: i think a new psp will cut off it's sales but almost 200k a week is not that bad it jus seems bad looking at the ds. it'll end up close to 70 mill lifetime. who knows sony may do something to relaunch the existing psp like they did the ps3 those dudes at sony shud never be underestimated. anything can happen!



No chance of PSP passing GBA sales -- but id still call the handheld a success, after all the PSP was/ is Nintendo's only direct competitor to survive in the handheld battle, let alone grab 30% marketshare...



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jonnhytesta said:
nope, piracy killed the poor thing a long time ago.

Uh, GBA piracy was just as if not more prevalent.  And it was far, far easier to do (tiny romsizes, quickly emulated, tons of flashcards on market, etc).

And GBA piracy actually hurt hardware sales too, you didn't even need a GBA to play GBA games. 



funny how everyone is like 'psp?...NO' well it has outsold the 360 3 weeks in a row now. and its still big in japan! i think with a price drop which it needs badly it will hit 80mil before the end



jarrod said:
jonnhytesta said:
nope, piracy killed the poor thing a long time ago.

Uh, GBA piracy was just as if not more prevalent.  And it was far, far easier to do (tiny romsizes, quickly emulated, tons of flashcards on market, etc).

And GBA piracy actually hurt hardware sales too, you didn't even need a GBA to play GBA games. 

The software sales/attach ratios don't reflect that.



 

 

MontanaHatchet said:
jarrod said:
jonnhytesta said:
nope, piracy killed the poor thing a long time ago.

Uh, GBA piracy was just as if not more prevalent.  And it was far, far easier to do (tiny romsizes, quickly emulated, tons of flashcards on market, etc).

And GBA piracy actually hurt hardware sales too, you didn't even need a GBA to play GBA games. 

The software sales/attach ratios don't reflect that.

Again, probably due to GBA being fully emulated within it's first six months.  To pirate PSP games, you still need a PSP.

If not for piracy, GBA hardware sales would have been even higher.  Inversely, one could argue PSP (software) piracy inflated it's hardware sales.

 

Of course, attach ratio has never been anywhere near a logical measure for piracy.  Wii and PS3 have similar attach ratios, does that mean their amount of piracy is similar?



It's tracking well below, although the GBA declined very fast at this point in it's life. The PSP looks like it's rapidly declining too, and it's relevance is becoming less and less.

Production costs are likely much higher for PSP than GBA also, so I don't see it moving down in price much to increase demand. Sony probably would drop prices a lot, if they thought it was worth going 'razors and blades' with PSP again, but considering the sales of blades, I doubt they will.



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