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jonop on 30 January 2010
fxa5209 said:
Cant believe that this web site would question its integrity with such a huge adjustment. This is not even within any kind of error margin. Serioulsy, i am starting to doubt any number here.

It is within the margin of error because the adjustment goes back so far.



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koffieboon on 30 January 2010
Zlejedi said:
khanticcortus said:

There is something strange here.

November 2009 , Microsoft announce 10 Millions XBox360 In EMEA ( Eurome, Middle East , Africa ) and recently they announce 5 Million Xbox360 sold between October and December IN THE WORLD.

So it's impossible for the XBox360 to be at 14 millions in Europe. That doesn't make sense.

http://www.microsoft.com/France/InformationsPresse/Fiche-Communique.aspx?EID=b77e69cc-ab66-467b-853b-05a2c4e5b65b

 

Sorry for my bad english.... i'm French. 

That's a very good question which seems to be ignored by people so far.

 

But Xbox 360 isn't at 14 million in Europe, that number is for the whole of Others.



Kasz216 on 30 January 2010
fxa5209 said:
Cant believe that this web site would question its integrity with such a huge adjustment. This is not even within any kind of error margin. Serioulsy, i am starting to doubt any number here.

1.1 million divided by 31.21 gives me an error of 3.5%.

1.1 million divided by 13.89 gives an error of 8%.

Both are within VGC's margin of error of 10%.

 

It's an adjustment going back... pretty much forever as they refine their process.  So yeah... it is within the margin of error.



SaviorX on 30 January 2010

LOL ahhhhhh, gotta love a meltdown.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

joshin69 on 30 January 2010

Ooops, who put that banana there?



 

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BigBoobieHead on 30 January 2010
Kasz216 said:
fxa5209 said:
Cant believe that this web site would question its integrity with such a huge adjustment. This is not even within any kind of error margin. Serioulsy, i am starting to doubt any number here.

1.1 million divided by 31.21 gives me an error of 3.5%.

1.1 million divided by 13.89 gives an error of 8%.

Both are within VGC's margin of error of 10%.

 

It's an adjustment going back... pretty much forever as they refine their process.  So yeah... it is within the margin of error.

That's spin and you know it. If your going to be fussy like that you should know that probably the majority of software on this site is out of the margin or error. Also, if a console sells 100M, do you think a 10M error is acceptable just because it's in the 'Margin of Error?'



Kasz216 on 30 January 2010
BigBoobieHead said:
Kasz216 said:
fxa5209 said:
Cant believe that this web site would question its integrity with such a huge adjustment. This is not even within any kind of error margin. Serioulsy, i am starting to doubt any number here.

1.1 million divided by 31.21 gives me an error of 3.5%.

1.1 million divided by 13.89 gives an error of 8%.

Both are within VGC's margin of error of 10%.

 

It's an adjustment going back... pretty much forever as they refine their process.  So yeah... it is within the margin of error.

That's spin and you know it. If your going to be fussy like that you should know that probably the majority of software on this site is out of the margin or error. Also, if a console sells 100M, do you think a 10M error is acceptable just because it's in the 'Margin of Error?'

How is that "spin".  It's percentages... using the number based over the timespan given.

Also.. if a console sells 100M and their is a 10M error... is that acceptable?  Only if you have a hard count of every system sold.  Since that would be the entire swing of your margin of error.

Bit if you knew in fact that 110 or 90 million consoles were sold then... yeah.  That's acceptable.

That's what a margin of error is... a margin... a percentage.  Just because a number gets higher doesn't mean that the acceptability of the margin of error gets lower.


Being 1 off on a sale of 10 is no different then being 10 Million off a sale of 100 Million.

Hell... i'd say being 1 off a sale of 10 is WORSE... I mean your only tracking 10 things... vs you know... 100 Million.

 



dravenmanson on 30 January 2010
koffieboon said:
Zlejedi said:
khanticcortus said:

There is something strange here.

November 2009 , Microsoft announce 10 Millions XBox360 In EMEA ( Eurome, Middle East , Africa ) and recently they announce 5 Million Xbox360 sold between October and December IN THE WORLD.

So it's impossible for the XBox360 to be at 14 millions in Europe. That doesn't make sense.

http://www.microsoft.com/France/InformationsPresse/Fiche-Communique.aspx?EID=b77e69cc-ab66-467b-853b-05a2c4e5b65b

 

Sorry for my bad english.... i'm French. 

That's a very good question which seems to be ignored by people so far.

 

But Xbox 360 isn't at 14 million in Europe, that number is for the whole of Others.

10 Millions are for whole of Others (EMEA except Australia)



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Carl on 30 January 2010

Not read through the entire thread... But is this based off of Nintendo's estimations?



                            

Bamboleo on 30 January 2010
fxa5209 said:
Cant believe that this web site would question its integrity with such a huge adjustment. This is not even within any kind of error margin. Serioulsy, i am starting to doubt any number here.

You are cordially invited to leave. New users pop in everyday, and if you aren't happy with a free source for consoles and games sales tracking, which happens to be the best free one, you can always pay for GFK or something else.

 

And where were you to question the website integrity when Wii was massively adjusted down in other ocasions?