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KylieDog said:
BladeOfGod said:
Akvod said:
BladeOfGod said:
Battlefield wont come close to MW2 online. MW2 will destroy it in both sales and quality

Please explain.

no killstreak(biggest fail right there),no deathstrike, takes more bullets to kill an enemy, harder sniping, less types of online games, no spec ops (there for less value), no 3 types of boost

 

i dont need to explain sales, do i?

 

Lets see-

 

Killstreaks - Not everyone likes these,99% people who play and any good at MW2 likes these a mod that disabled them was popular on PC.   Besides if I want a chopper or Motor Strike or something like that I'll just pilot/command one myself.matter of opinnion

Deathstreaks - Reward for being crap?  Thank god there isn't one.no, a help  to get back in the game

Takes more bullets to kill someone - Yeah, means actual player skills matterhave you ever played warhawk or resistance 2 online?, no more being the first to twitch fire, hit a foot and get a kill.  You need keep a good aim or go for head to make sure you win the kill.

Harder Sniping - You mean sniping that again, requires some effort or skill?no, but requires too much skill and you can only get like 5.10 kills max Bullet travelt ime and gravity need be accounted for, this is a good thing.

Less types of online games - Fair point I guess, though MW has many similar modes that aren't really different where as Battlefields are, less modes means a less split community also so is not all bad.MW2 usually has 200000-400000 people playing online.(on PSN) i dont think BBC2 will have that much on its launch day.

No Spec-Ops - You mean that mode that recycled single player levels mainly and didn't even have a matchmaking system?now now, just because you cant complete them because it requires ''TEH SKILL'' doesnt mean you have to hate them. Spec Ops will give you at least 40 hours of playtime  Battlefield is about real multiplayer.

No 3 types of boost - Yes there is, just nothing ridiculous like being able to knife people from 10 ft away.I'd rather have a boost that can actually help me, than some ussles like the one in uncharted ''have more ammo' or ''1 extra granate''. those boost wont help me do shit.

 

 

Lets ignore the vehicle combat, destruction engine, more players,(cough, lag,cough) dedicated servers(cough,lag,cough) etc etc MW2 does not have.

 



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BladeOfGod said:
KylieDog said:
BladeOfGod said:
Akvod said:
BladeOfGod said:
Battlefield wont come close to MW2 online. MW2 will destroy it in both sales and quality

Please explain.

no killstreak(biggest fail right there),no deathstrike, takes more bullets to kill an enemy, harder sniping, less types of online games, no spec ops (there for less value), no 3 types of boost

 

i dont need to explain sales, do i?

 

Lets see-

 

Killstreaks - Not everyone likes these,99% people who play and any good at MW2 likes these a mod that disabled them was popular on PC.   Besides if I want a chopper or Motor Strike or something like that I'll just pilot/command one myself.matter of opinnion

Deathstreaks - Reward for being crap?  Thank god there isn't one.no, a help  to get back in the game

Takes more bullets to kill someone - Yeah, means actual player skills matterhave you ever played warhawk or resistance 2 online?, no more being the first to twitch fire, hit a foot and get a kill.  You need keep a good aim or go for head to make sure you win the kill.

Harder Sniping - You mean sniping that again, requires some effort or skill?no, but requires too much skill and you can only get like 5.10 kills max Bullet travelt ime and gravity need be accounted for, this is a good thing.

Less types of online games - Fair point I guess, though MW has many similar modes that aren't really different where as Battlefields are, less modes means a less split community also so is not all bad.MW2 usually has 200000-400000 people playing online.(on PSN) i dont think BBC2 will have that much on its launch day.

No Spec-Ops - You mean that mode that recycled single player levels mainly and didn't even have a matchmaking system?now now, just because you cant complete them because it requires ''TEH SKILL'' doesnt mean you have to hate them. Spec Ops will give you at least 40 hours of playtime  Battlefield is about real multiplayer.

No 3 types of boost - Yes there is, just nothing ridiculous like being able to knife people from 10 ft away.I'd rather have a boost that can actually help me, than some ussles like the one in uncharted ''have more ammo' or ''1 extra granate''. those boost wont help me do shit.

 

 

Lets ignore the vehicle combat, destruction engine, more players,(cough, lag,cough) dedicated servers(cough,lag,cough) etc etc MW2 does not have.

 

Ok, even though I facepalmed, I can ignore the first block of statements you make easily enough.

But the last? Are you seriously insinuating incorrectly that not only more players = lag in BC2 engine, but that dedicated servers cause lag? You are seriously going to post here, or anywhere, and openly admit in public that a bunch of random ppl hosting games on their home internet is technically superior in terms of performance and latency to EA hosting massive server farms on backbone-grade internet?

Do you actually PLAY MW2? I have it on PS3... sometimes its OK, often it lags balls, and the host migrations, botched host migrations and terminated lobbies are often quite epidemic. Your last post makes me openly wonder if not only have you never played anything but MW2, but whether you have even played MW2 itself.



BladeOfGod said:
KylieDog said:
BladeOfGod said:
Akvod said:
BladeOfGod said:
Battlefield wont come close to MW2 online. MW2 will destroy it in both sales and quality

Please explain.

no killstreak(biggest fail right there),no deathstrike, takes more bullets to kill an enemy, harder sniping, less types of online games, no spec ops (there for less value), no 3 types of boost

 

i dont need to explain sales, do i?

 

Lets see-

 

Killstreaks - Not everyone likes these,99% people who play and any good at MW2 likes these a mod that disabled them was popular on PC.   Besides if I want a chopper or Motor Strike or something like that I'll just pilot/command one myself.matter of opinnion

Deathstreaks - Reward for being crap?  Thank god there isn't one.no, a help  to get back in the game

Takes more bullets to kill someone - Yeah, means actual player skills matterhave you ever played warhawk or resistance 2 online?, no more being the first to twitch fire, hit a foot and get a kill.  You need keep a good aim or go for head to make sure you win the kill.

Harder Sniping - You mean sniping that again, requires some effort or skill?no, but requires too much skill and you can only get like 5.10 kills max Bullet travelt ime and gravity need be accounted for, this is a good thing.

Less types of online games - Fair point I guess, though MW has many similar modes that aren't really different where as Battlefields are, less modes means a less split community also so is not all bad.MW2 usually has 200000-400000 people playing online.(on PSN) i dont think BBC2 will have that much on its launch day.

No Spec-Ops - You mean that mode that recycled single player levels mainly and didn't even have a matchmaking system?now now, just because you cant complete them because it requires ''TEH SKILL'' doesnt mean you have to hate them. Spec Ops will give you at least 40 hours of playtime  Battlefield is about real multiplayer.

No 3 types of boost - Yes there is, just nothing ridiculous like being able to knife people from 10 ft away.I'd rather have a boost that can actually help me, than some ussles like the one in uncharted ''have more ammo' or ''1 extra granate''. those boost wont help me do shit.

 

 

Lets ignore the vehicle combat, destruction engine, more players,(cough, lag,cough) dedicated servers(cough,lag,cough) etc etc MW2 does not have.

 

All your comments just show you perfer console games and have never experienced a PC FPS before....



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I can see Bad Company 2 crush MW2 on PC easily:

BC2 was #1 Top Seller on Steam last week (and still is), and there's still 5 weeks before it comes out. It is also in D2D's Top 10 and selling in other digital stores.

MW2, which had disappointing sales on PC, was only #3 in it's first pre-order week on Steam, and had only 2 or 3 weeks of pre-order. It also isn't being sold anywhere else other than Steam.



Kantor said:
KylieDog said:
Kantor said:
The beta was reasonably good. But in a quarter as busy as this one, I'll skip BC2...for now.

 

Fail.  I hear some cruddy jrpg is releasing in March, skip that instead.

Oh believe me, I wouldn't neglect BC2 for not-so-Final Fantasy.

I'm guessing you don't like change in video games?



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axumblade said:
Legend11 said:
Dear EA,

Good luck overthrowing Modern Warfare 2 with Battlefield: Bad Company 2. Having the multiplayer beta on the PS3 rather than the console with the biggest FPS fanbase in the World was a brilliant first move towards that goal. Lets hope you finally have gotten your footing this generation before someone comes in and does some house cleaning to do it for you.

Yours Sincerely,

Legend11

Dear Random fanboy, 

Stop complaining over absolutely nothing. It's a fucking beta, not an exclusive game. While the 360 has a larger audience, the PS3 audience deserves to be thrown a bone once in a while and it was a time for growth with the PS3 that the beta came out. Also, 360 owners are more inclined to buy FPS's in the first place, so why do they need to attempt to expand their audience to a system that's already FPS-crazy. 

On another note, I am buying the game for the 360 because I prefer the controller for a shooter. Because the 360 has sold significantly more than the PS3 (especially when the beta was announced) the likelihood of the PS3 owner having both consoles is higher then a 360 owner having both consoles. Therefore the people who have multiple consoles can choose which system based on their preference. Now go cry somewhere else.

Sincerely,

a less bias source.

P.S. - Why did you even bother coming back if all you're going to do is bitch? Didn't think VGChartz had enough pissy fanboys running amok?  


If you're going to respond to a post of mine and insult me by calling me a fanboy (isn't that against the forum rules?) try doing it with one in which you have a leg to stand on.  Nothing you posted changes the fact that the 360 has the biggest FPS fan base and that it was an idiotic move on their part not to have the beta on that system as well (in addition to the PS3 or solely on 360). 

Also the fact you're buying it on the 360 really has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion at hand as well as the bias comment (what in hell does that have to do with making smart business decisions)?  As for the multiple consoles angle it makes absolutely no sense in your rebuttal since it just reinforces that it should have been on the 360 (it'd reach a higher percentage of the PS3 user base with the beta on 360 than the 360 userbase with it on PS3).

As for throwing a bone, do you really think EA of all companies really has the luxury of throwing bones to anyone considering their current financial situation and the fact that they're basically trying to play catch up to the Modern Warfare series?  Seriously maybe you should consider sticking to the Off Topic forum if that post is an example of what you're going to offer, a knee jerk reaction meant to insult me and using completely flawed logic.



Well, whichever way u look at it, it is obviously a positive thing..............i love bf anyway (on pc)



KylieDog said:
BladeOfGod said:
KylieDog said:
BladeOfGod said:
Akvod said:
BladeOfGod said:
Battlefield wont come close to MW2 online. MW2 will destroy it in both sales and quality

Please explain.

no killstreak(biggest fail right there),no deathstrike, takes more bullets to kill an enemy, harder sniping, less types of online games, no spec ops (there for less value), no 3 types of boost

 

i dont need to explain sales, do i?

 

Lets see-

 

Killstreaks - Not everyone likes these,99% people who play and any good at MW2 likes these a mod that disabled them was popular on PC.   Besides if I want a chopper or Motor Strike or something like that I'll just pilot/command one myself.matter of opinnion  Er no, it isn't opinion, is is fact, if I want a chopper or MS I will do it myself.''If I want a chopper or MS I will do it myslef . Sound like opinnion to me. i would rather send a chopper to kill them for me

Deathstreaks - Reward for being crap?  Thank god there isn't one.no, a help  to get back in the game It is called learning and getting better, you don't get better by being given boosts when you suckno, deathstrike is there to help you get back in the game, they are not a reward and they are not a boost.

Takes more bullets to kill someone - Yeah, means actual player skills matterhave you ever played warhawk or resistance 2 online?   Yes I have, at least make a point if gonna post such open statements, like this one I will make...R2 needs more bullets, making headshots a benefit, no twitching.id rather kill an enemy with 7-10 bullets ( thats how many bullets it takes to kill a soldeir in REAL LIFE ) than to spray 30 bullets in one enemy and to reload after i kill him , no more being the first to twitch fire, hit a foot and get a kill.  You need keep a good aim or go for head to make sure you win the kill.

Harder Sniping - You mean sniping that again, requires some effort or skill?no, but requires too much skill and you can only get like 5.10 kills max It doesn't take long to work out required height you need to account for bullet drop, 5-10 kills max?  I don't understand this, what you suck and miss all game or you run out of ammo and are too stupid to go ask for some?miss all game? if i am a sniper im not going to shoot from at people 10 ft away. im gonna find a hidng spot (like a tower or something ) and shoot from there. have you ever played with sniper?  Bullet travelt ime and gravity need be accounted for, this is a good thing.

Less types of online games - Fair point I guess, though MW has many similar modes that aren't really different where as Battlefields are, less modes means a less split community also so is not all bad.MW2 usually has 200000-400000 people playing online.(on PSN) i dont think BBC2 will have that much on its launch day. What you posted promotes my point.Team Deathmatch alone will have more people playing than BBC2 on its launchday. So much for ''less split comunity''

No Spec-Ops - You mean that mode that recycled single player levels mainly and didn't even have a matchmaking system?now now, just because you cant complete them because it requires ''TEH SKILL'' doesnt mean you have to hate them. Spec Ops will give you at least 40 hours of playtime  This isn't even a defence, see my original comment after this greenyou obvioulsy know nothing about spec ops or you havent played all the missions yet. Only thing that is from single player are the maps on SOME missions.. Battlefield is about real multiplayer.

No 3 types of boost - Yes there is, just nothing ridiculous like being able to knife people from 10 ft away.I'd rather have a boost that can actually help me, than some ussles like the one in uncharted ''have more ammo' or ''1 extra granate''. those boost wont help me do shit.   ...and this is how weak your arguments are, why even mention Uncharted 2 when comparing BC2 and MW2?because i thik Uncharted 2 boosts are complete crap IMO ( this entire argument started because i posted my opinnion but i guess you cant like anything slightly related to MW2 on this web site).   Because you 'point' was absolute crap and if you look at BC2 you see you are very wrong?  BC2 has boosts like extra armour,yup, that will help a LOT different ammo types, enhanced healing, radar for vehicles and so forth.  Besides those uncharted 2 boosts while cripple you cause you to get more points as a bonus, so they do help you 'do shit'.wait, i tought boosts are supposed to help you to get more points, not cripple you to get more points

 

 

Lets ignore the vehicle combat, destruction engine, more players,(cough, lag,cough) Not with dedicated servers, educate youself. dedicated servers(cough,lag,cough) again, educate yourself, pure ignorance. etc etc MW2 does not have.

 

 

 

Replies in green, the last you'll get from me since you're clearly biased to the point you just post complete nonsense.

Im not going to bother replaying to you anymore. You are obviously MW2 hater and you cant reason with those people. you probably hate it because a)you sucked at it or b) its popular so you must hate it ( that happens a lot on this web site ).

I posted MY OPINNION on why i think BC2 wont beat MW2 in quality. You dont have to agree with it, but dont quote me and insult me because i dont share your opinnion. YOu might think that killstreaks, deathstrikes, Ac-130, less health and other things suck but dont try to make other people think that as well



KylieDog said:
Legend11 said:
axumblade said:
Legend11 said:
Dear EA,

Good luck overthrowing Modern Warfare 2 with Battlefield: Bad Company 2. Having the multiplayer beta on the PS3 rather than the console with the biggest FPS fanbase in the World was a brilliant first move towards that goal. Lets hope you finally have gotten your footing this generation before someone comes in and does some house cleaning to do it for you.

Yours Sincerely,

Legend11

Dear Random fanboy, 

Stop complaining over absolutely nothing. It's a fucking beta, not an exclusive game. While the 360 has a larger audience, the PS3 audience deserves to be thrown a bone once in a while and it was a time for growth with the PS3 that the beta came out. Also, 360 owners are more inclined to buy FPS's in the first place, so why do they need to attempt to expand their audience to a system that's already FPS-crazy. 

On another note, I am buying the game for the 360 because I prefer the controller for a shooter. Because the 360 has sold significantly more than the PS3 (especially when the beta was announced) the likelihood of the PS3 owner having both consoles is higher then a 360 owner having both consoles. Therefore the people who have multiple consoles can choose which system based on their preference. Now go cry somewhere else.

Sincerely,

a less bias source.

P.S. - Why did you even bother coming back if all you're going to do is bitch? Didn't think VGChartz had enough pissy fanboys running amok?  


If you're going to respond to a post of mine and insult me by calling me a fanboy (isn't that against the forum rules?) try doing it with one in which you have a leg to stand on.  Nothing you posted changes the fact that the 360 has the biggest FPS fan base and that it was an idiotic move on their part not to have the beta on that system as well (in addition to the PS3 or solely on 360). 

Also the fact you're buying it on the 360 really has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion at hand as well as the bias comment (what in hell does that have to do with making smart business decisions)?  As for the multiple consoles angle it makes absolutely no sense in your rebuttal since it just reinforces that it should have been on the 360 (it'd reach a higher percentage of the PS3 user base with the beta on 360 than the 360 userbase with it on PS3).

As for throwing a bone, do you really think EA of all companies really has the luxury of throwing bones to anyone considering their current financial situation and the fact that they're basically trying to play catch up to the Modern Warfare series?  Seriously maybe you should consider sticking to the Off Topic forum if that post is an example of what you're going to offer, a knee jerk reaction meant to insult me and using completely flawed logic.

 

 

Its cool how you reply to him and repeat the claim it was idiotic while ignoring my reply, I copy it here:

 

If you bothered to research anything you'd know that the BF series already has a decent following on the 360, the PS3 following is a lot smaller.  The 360 having a bigger FPS fanbase combined with existing following will secure sales on that platform.  The PS3 however benefits hugely from having the BETA and builds up a stronger following where it was needed most.

I'll copy mine here too: If it'll make your dick feel bigger, DICE explained that they had the beta for the PS3, because the 360 version didn't have as many bugs to warrant a beta.



KylieDog said:
BladeOfGod said:

 

id rather kill an enemy with 7-10 bullets ( thats how many bullets it takes to kill a soldeir in REAL LIFE )

 

 

Hahahahahahaha.    Someone should put that in their sig.

Shit just got REAL son.