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The_vagabond7 said:
That's an incredibly depressing list. Did anybody actually read it? It's sad, I love my wii, but I wouldn't touch the majority of those games with a ten foot pole, let alone play them.

I guess it just means you're not representative of the typical Wii user..



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PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !

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"yep it's a well known fact that the lower your userbase the more million sellers you have."

I didn't write that, or even imply that. You can't make userbase suddenly matter in general by twisting my words.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

LordTheNightKnight said:
"So the lesson here is....if you can't achieve 100% of your vision, then don't bother trying and just sell out for the masses?"

No, the lesson is stop thinking of games as a vision, and even if you had one, stop thinking of it in terms of specs over your own talent and creativity.

"I really don't think you can fault developers for wanting to make the best games they can"

They aren't trying to do that. They're trying to make the flashiest games they can, and focusing less and less on the actual game part. If they simply wanted the biggest, baddest games possible, that would be cool.

And developing for a lesser powered system would make this better how? And why shouldn't you have a vision for your game exactly? And why should your vision be simplified for a lack of hardware power? And also pointing at games like Batman, or Assassin's creed 2, or any of the great games that came out last year and saying "They only cared about making the flashiest game possible" is really a gross disservice and insult to all of the people that put their passion and souls into making those games. Making venice seem less alive, reducing the activity in the streets, simplifying the ai routines of all the people living their lives, greatly reducing the draw distances from vistas would severely hamper the artistic integrity of that game.

Every generation of developers who under different circumstances you would call creative, sat around thinking "I want to do this, but can't because of the limitations of the hardware, I guess I will do this instead."  Super Mario World wasn't just flashier than Super Mario Bros 3, Ocarina of Time wasn't just flashier than Link to the Past, Pikmin wasn't something that would come to life in the same way on the N64, and games like Dead Space or Fallout 3 aren't just "flashier" games that should be scaled back for wii, or be sacrificed all together so they can focus on making more Jillian Michaels Fitness Ultimatum 2. How exactly was the original Modern Warfare focusing less on the actual game part? With an incredibly balanced intricate multiplayer that has influenced pretty much all online multiplayer games since? How is demon souls not an incrediblely creative unique game? How is Kamiya different from Suda other than having a bit more money to spend?

I love my wii, but trying to say that the games on HD systems are all flash and no substance, all tech and no creativity is insanity. Telling developers that they are dumb for not scaling things back a bit for wii because there are things they want to do but can't on the wii is an absurdity. If you really believe that it is wrong or stupid for a developer to want more horsepower, then you need to go back in time and slap Miyamoto and all your heroes in the face for at one point or another wishing they had a bit more processor power, or a bit of extra ram to achieve the game they really wanted to make.



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Arius Dion said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
BrandonM said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
BrandonM said:
gamefreak4ever said:
The_vagabond7 said:
That's an incredibly depressing list. Did anybody actually read it? It's sad, I love my wii, but I wouldn't touch the majority of those games with a ten foot pole, let alone play them.


Its sad...cause its true...

Yep so sad......imagine of 3rd parties put ALL AAA games on Wii, at least developers would probably be making money and the industry wouldn't be dying huh:)

But their vision is more important! I mean, look at Final Fantasy XIII. They got all those amazing graphics in game... or not.

Just think about all the many people that lost their jobs because of this, look at all the money they lost, (I know it's not all FFXIII's fault but it's sad IMO) FFXIII is a pretty blood stained game imo:'(

Wait. What? There are reports of money and jobs lost because of that game?

My question exactly.

Square had to lay down people on two occasions this gen but like I said even though it may not be FFXIII's fault, their crystal engine may have been the main factor, along with other things:(

 

I wish them all good luck...



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of course on the 360 of those million sellers 2 are dead rising for some reason, around a dozen are annual sports games, and about 8 were pack ins
where as on the wii 0 are dead rising, 4 annual sports games, and 1 pack in which is a million seller anyway, and more missing others data



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How many does PS2 have?



NYANKS said:
How many does PS2 have?

220



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

"And developing for a lesser powered system would make this better how?"

It would lower costs, and even help them learn to economize their HD games better.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

I find it ironic that the games that no one seems to want to play on the 75m sellers list are actually paying for the overhyped bilge teh hardcores are spoon fed on a daily basis.



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Dv8thwonder said:

I find it ironic that the games that no one seems to want to play on the 75m sellers list are actually paying for the overhyped bilge teh hardcores are spoon fed on a daily basis.


Exactly and yet they still complain...



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