What he meant was

"In Europe, over the past three weeks, the PS3 has been the number one selling Sony console, with the PS2 being No. 2."

Also WW the PSP has been the number one selling Sony handheld.

Diomedes1976 said: Guys ,the PS3 is selling more than the X360 since launch in Europe .Thats facts ,no matter what teh data for others show in this page

Just like Media Crate tracks 90% of Japan, right?  Do everyone a favor and stop making stuff up.

can't people be banned for being downright stupid? I mean it's one thing to be biased, people like that can still add to the forums. Diomedes doesn't add anything to this forum besides flamewars. His posts are nothing but a waste of everyone's time.

TheBigFatJ:

I don't agree with you. There have been four full weeks since PS3 price drop. So he passing over only one week, that's not much and you don't really know if he knew (in the time when he was making his statement) this week's sales or not. I don't know if you have read the entire statment but he also said that
"if the momentum continues," Sony will certainly hit its target of selling 10 million PS3s worldwide by the end of its fiscal year. So I don't see any extrapolating here as he preciesly wonders about what will happen.

Diomedes, I'm going to make things simple for you: You live in Spain, correct? So when you say things like "I SEE EVERYONE WITH PS3s!!! NO ONE HAS A WII!! ZOMG EUROPE LOVES PS3 TEH NUMBERS ARE WRONG!!" then your anecdotal evidence counts for Spain, since that's where you live. (unless you go trekking all around Europe to research people's console owning habits) So fair enough, I may take your anecdotal evidence to suggest the fact that the PS3 is outselling Wii in Spain.

But ioi already has that in his data! Spain has PS3 outselling Wii 2:1 with LTD sales greater than that of the Wii. So stop bitching about PS3 being undertracked in all of Europe (which you do constantly), and the only evidence you give is what you see with your own eyes, which only applies to one country!

OT: If you look at Spain, you'll see that PS3 is the number one selling console, and PS2 is number two. That's "In Europe". While it may be possible that ioi undertracked the PS3s price jump related spike, the idea that the PS2 sales suddenly doubled in Europe on the back of a PS3 price drop is ludicrous.

redspear said: What he meant was "In Europe, over the past three weeks, the PS3 has been the number one selling Sony console, with the PS2 being No. 2." Also WW the PSP has been the number one selling Sony handheld.

Ofc, you are right. no lies that way and still good news

Just_Ben said: Source GameDaily According to Sony Chief Executive Sir Howard Stringer, sales of the PlayStation 3 have seen a nice up-tick since the company introduced a cheaper 40GB model. In Europe, over the past three weeks, the PS3 has been the number one selling console, with the PS2 being No. 2. He said the console is now selling three times as fast, and twice as fast in the U.S. Stringer noted that "if the momentum continues," Sony will certainly hit its target of selling 10 million PS3s worldwide by the end of its fiscal year. "We are coming back up again," he said. -------------------- Any thoughts? Is he qouting Media Create? Or is it marketing BS?

Its marketing BS. Firstly, the PS3 has *never* been the #1 selling console this year - except for launch week. And definitely not recently. Its in real danger of being the worst selling console at the moment (Wii & PS2 both outselling it, 360 almost on par).

Twice as fast in the US? I would hope so, on the week the new 40Gig launches (+ price cuts hit?). Its still being smashed in the US by everything else - and suffered the embarrassment of being outsold in Japan by the 360 last week (won't last though).

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Now for: "Sony will certainly hit its target of selling 10 million PS3s worldwide by the end of its fiscal year"

I'll make my statement now: Sony will suffer one of the most embarrassing pieces of media ever, when they miss their fiscal year projections by 3-4m by March '08. I don't know who is doing the number in Sony, but they are smoking some wacky weed.

Lets do a quick analysis. They hve sold maybe... 3.5m this fiscal year to date, and need to sell another 7.5m (approx). I'm sticking to the 11m figure BTW - not this 10m "out of the air" figure.

 - 8 weeks left this year. Xmas is the busiest time - lets say they need to sell 4m this year to have a chance.

4m / 8 = 500k / week (worldwide). Last week they sold 130k WW. Ooops.

Lets say for this coming week: 50k sales in Japan (price drop), and 100k in the US (40Gig release). Others around 50k. That still makes 200k.

Lets say, sales double for Black Friday week (thanksgiving), and sales stay doubled for all of Dec - and quadrupled for last week in Dec (Xmas).

That still makes: 200k x 3 + 400k (Nov) + 400k x 3 + 800k (Xmas) = 3.0m (approx)

So even with this "best case scenario", they STILL miss their target this year by at least 1m - probably closer to 1.5m

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Then lets take NEXT quarter.  MGS has been delayed, no GTA either. They get Prologue... and HOME? LBP?

Its traditionally the quietest period of the year. They are also up against some stiff competition - Brawl & other titles.

If they sold 4m in this Xmas qrt - they will be lucky to sell 2.0m - 2.5m - in the next qrt. Prologue will help... but not *that* much. They REALLY needed MGS. Maybe if they have some surprises coming.

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So I think they will miss it by 2m units at best - and 4m at worst. They could always pull some "shipped figures" out of the air (channel stuffing), saying that they shipped 2-3m MORE units than they sold. I guess in the end, missing it by only 2m will almost be a blessing to them - considering how bad it could be.

We'll see in the coming weeks how the sales in the US/Japan stack up, and how well they hold. Its also important to note how much competition the PS3 has now - its still the most expensive console, and with the (easily) weakest lineup. Up against the DS, PSP, PS2, 360, Wii.. and even GBA. 

There still in denial, sad really sad

I hope that a price cut would increase sales, or else the PS3 would really be in trouble. In fact, I'm pretty surprised that the PS3 has sold as much as it has with such a lack luster software offering.

HappySqurriel said: This is the same company that said in the summer that the PS3 had outsold the XBox 360 and Wii in Europe since it launched ... I'm not saying they're lying, but I'd be very careful to believe what they say being how "playful" they've been with their numbers in the past.

Really? I'd say they're lying.