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Well I am new to VGChartz and this my first thread. I would just love to put my thoughts about what I think of Nintendo.

 

First of all I want to question Nintendo's choice of Wii as the name of their console. They made it clear that it of course means everyone. Everyone sitting down or up and playing and having fun. Joy!! But when you really think of it, Wii represents mostly the casuals and the core gamers Nintendo has been able to gather. Besides Metroid what other game has Nintendo its self created for the hardcore gamers? It has failed to even create new characters, it just keeps refreshing old ones which is fine since I love them but I do want something new.

Now don't say "but the hardcores don't matter, Nintendo doesn't need them" that statement is true to some extent. If Nintendo wants to remain on top it needs to demolish the edge Microsoft and Sony have against them. Nintendo would need to "steal" those gamers as well. Just imagine how powerful it could be when all the three types of gamers are in their hands. Yes the hardcore gamers are important just look at the sales of games like Halo, Grand Theft Auto, etc. 

Nintendo needs to stop with leaving some technology behind in their hardware. Remember when Nintendo first lost? Why was that? Oh yeah it was because it failed to have CDs and DVD format discs. Why was the Gamecube so disappointing? Oh yeah it failed to have the type of size discs the others offered.  Now with the Wii, its a different story. Their winning edge is their ability to capture a lost audience who never would have thought of playing video games. But as a long fan I felt betrayed to some extent. I love their games but knowing that the Wii didnt offer HD or couldnt play DVDs so my family and I could watch felt bad. I know graphics dont matter but it wouldnt have hurt Nintendo to release one that was capable of displaying it. I say this mostly because of how Super Mario Galaxy looked when we got our 50 inch HD tv for Christmas. In my standard tv it looked AWESOME but when I first saw it on the HD tv I saw blurriness and the color was fainting. Really I felt sad, I thought due to my lack of knowledge of that time that it was going to be mind blowing, so darn beautiful but that didnt happen. 

I also have many people that I know who havent bought a Wii due to the fact of the reason of how ugly it looks in those big tvs and I cant blame them. My bro in law own all three and he said just imagine all those Nintendo franchises and how beautiful they would look in 1080p HD tv. I have a feeling for the next generation, Nintendo is only going to offer 720p. :(

I love you Nintendo but please listen to your fans. You even deleted those forums on your website. I love both you and Sony but Sony wins in terms of listening to fans and giving the best entertainment thus far. The Wii is fun but if you could only listen.



 

        

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dany612 said:
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I love you Nintendo but please listen to your fans. You even deleted those forums on your website. I love both you and Sony but Sony wins in terms of listening to fans and giving the best entertainment thus far. The Wii is fun but if you could only listen.

YES! Why the heck did they remove the NSider forums? I still cry about it today!

About the graphics don't matter part... I don't necessarily agree. And because of what you wrote after, it seems you unwilingly do care about them! Haha, I guess it's just natural, as gamers we want the whole package, and as a multi-console owner that also has a good PC, I can't stop but notice how disappointing the lack of HD is on the Wii. This is why I still play on an SDTV... with no surround sound hooked up to it though.



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Why is Bionic Commando Rearmed 2 getting so much hate? We finally get a real game and they're not even satisfied... I'm starting to hate the gaming community so f****** much...

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If Super Mario Galaxy looks more blurry and washed out on your HDTV than on your old TV, it means either

1) You forgot to buy component cables and set your Wii on 480p and 16:9 widescreen
2) You bought a terrible TV.



 

dany612 said:

Well I am new to VGChartz and this my first thread. I would just love to put my thoughts about what I think of Nintendo.

 

First of all I want to question Nintendo's choice of Wii as the name of their console. They made it clear that it of course means everyone. Everyone sitting down or up and playing and having fun. Joy!! But when you really think of it, Wii represents mostly the casuals and the core gamers Nintendo has been able to gather. Besides Metroid what other game has Nintendo its self created for the hardcore gamers?

Wait, so Metroid is a "hardcore" game, but Zelda isn't? I'm a bit confused. You're using terms like casual, core, and hardcore. Stop grouping people together.

It has failed to even create new characters, it just keeps refreshing old ones which is fine since I love them but I do want something new.

Punch-Out!! hasn't seen a game since the SNES era. Sin & Punishment was a Japan-only game. Pikmin is a new franchise and they're still working on the third one.

Now don't say "but the hardcores don't matter, Nintendo doesn't need them" that statement is true to some extent. If Nintendo wants to remain on top it needs to demolish the edge Microsoft and Sony have against them. Nintendo would need to "steal" those gamers as well. Just imagine how powerful it could be when all the three types of gamers are in their hands. Yes the hardcore gamers are important just look at the sales of games like Halo, Grand Theft Auto, etc. 

Again with the hardcore/casual terms! Nintendo has just as many "hardcore" games as Sony and Microsoft. I think I've put more of my life in Animal Crossing than I put into all the Halo games together. Let's stop catagorizing games as these silly terms.

Nintendo needs to stop with leaving some technology behind in their hardware. Remember when Nintendo first lost? Why was that? Oh yeah it was because it failed to have CDs and DVD format discs.

Nintendo has been ontop of technology every gen except this one. The NES was more powerful than the 2600, 5200, 7800, Master System, etc, the SNES was more powerful than the Genesis and Turbografx16, the N64 was more powerful than the PS1 and Saturn, and the GCN was more powerful than the PS2 and onpar with the xbox. Granted, Nintendo's choice to stick with Carts did hurt them but I still like carts more than CDs.

Why was the Gamecube so disappointing? Oh yeah it failed to have the type of size discs the others offered.

lol. I don't recall anyone complaning that the GCN used small discs. It was more or less the "kiddy console" it was labeled thanks to the marketing wars back in the 16bit gen with SEGA.

Now with the Wii, its a different story. Their winning edge is their ability to capture a lost audience who never would have thought of playing video games. But as a long fan I felt betrayed to some extent.

Wait, you felt betrayed? You were given a console with full back compatibility(something Sony and Microsoft seem to have trouble with) with the GCN. The Virtual Console? Revival of dead franchises? 2-D Mario? Two 3-D Mario games? Yeah, they're are betraying us SO much.

I love their games but knowing that the Wii didnt offer HD or couldnt play DVDs so my family and I could watch felt bad.

So what? The Wii isn't an HD console. Dude, remember how like, I dunno, EVERY CONSOLE BEFORE THE PS360 WASN'T HD? An HD console isn't required to play excellent games.

I know graphics dont matter but it wouldnt have hurt Nintendo to release one that was capable of displaying it. I say this mostly because of how Super Mario Galaxy looked when we got our 50 inch HD tv for Christmas. In my standard tv it looked AWESOME but when I first saw it on the HD tv I saw blurriness and the color was fainting.Really I felt sad, I thought due to my lack of knowledge of that time that it was going to be mind blowing, so darn beautiful but that didnt happen.

Component cables, bro.

 

I also have many people that I know who havent bought a Wii due to the fact of the reason of how ugly it looks in those big tvs and I cant blame them. My bro in law own all three and he said just imagine all those Nintendo franchises and how beautiful they would look in 1080p HD tv. I have a feeling for the next generation, Nintendo is only going to offer 720p. :(

lol. Please, if you will, name a few games in 1080p this gen? Hell, many HD games aren't even true HD. Do some research, bro.

I love you Nintendo but please listen to your fans. You even deleted those forums on your website. I love both you and Sony but Sony wins in terms of listening to fans and giving the best entertainment thus far. The Wii is fun but if you could only listen.

Nintendo released a game two gens ago in Japan only. Because of the want for this game(Sin&Punishment) to be over seas, not only did the release it on virtual console, they're making a full-fledged sequel. If that's not fan service, then I have no idea what is.

 

Wait, so Metroid is a "hardcore" game, but Zelda isn't? I'm a bit confused. You're using terms like casual, core, and hardcore. Stop grouping people together.


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Chrizum said:
If Super Mario Galaxy looks more blurry and washed out on your HDTV than on your old TV, it means either

1) You forgot to buy component cables and set your Wii on 480p and 16:9 widescreen
2) You bought a terrible TV.

Another point, thanks for pointing it out. Why doesnt Nintendo also include those cables?

Actually two things. One I have one which I put in the family room and its about 40 some inches. Its HD and even without them it looks good and there isnt much blurriness and stuff. But the 53 inch one is the one that made it look ugly. Its 1080p one. So those component cables really work? Makes much of a difference, if so where could i get them??



 

        

dany612 said:
Chrizum said:
If Super Mario Galaxy looks more blurry and washed out on your HDTV than on your old TV, it means either

1) You forgot to buy component cables and set your Wii on 480p and 16:9 widescreen
2) You bought a terrible TV.

Another point, thanks for pointing it out. Why doesnt Nintendo also include those cables?

Actually two things. One I have one which I put in the family room and its about 40 some inches. Its HD and even without them it looks good and there isnt much blurriness and stuff. But the 53 inch one is the one that made it look ugly. Its 1080p one. So those component cables really work? Makes much of a difference, if so where could i get them??

Trust me, it makes a LOT of difference. Just don't forget to change your Wii settings to 480p and 16:9 widescreen.



dany612 said:
Chrizum said:
If Super Mario Galaxy looks more blurry and washed out on your HDTV than on your old TV, it means either

1) You forgot to buy component cables and set your Wii on 480p and 16:9 widescreen
2) You bought a terrible TV.

Another point, thanks for pointing it out. Why doesnt Nintendo also include those cables?

Actually two things. One I have one which I put in the family room and its about 40 some inches. Its HD and even without them it looks good and there isnt much blurriness and stuff. But the 53 inch one is the one that made it look ugly. Its 1080p one. So those component cables really work? Makes much of a difference, if so where could i get them??

Sony doesn't include HD cables as well~ And they have an HD console! Go figure!

 

You can find them online for maybe 10 bucks. Makes the colors brighter and crisper. Mario Galaxy looks amazing on my 52" HDTV.



dany612 said:

Well I am new to VGChartz and this my first thread. I would just love to put my thoughts about what I think of Nintendo.

 

First of all I want to question Nintendo's choice of Wii as the name of their console. They made it clear that it of course means everyone. Everyone sitting down or up and playing and having fun. Joy!! But when you really think of it, Wii represents mostly the casuals and the core gamers Nintendo has been able to gather. Besides Metroid what other game has Nintendo its self created for the hardcore gamers? It has failed to even create new characters, it just keeps refreshing old ones which is fine since I love them but I do want something new.

Now don't say "but the hardcores don't matter, Nintendo doesn't need them" that statement is true to some extent. If Nintendo wants to remain on top it needs to demolish the edge Microsoft and Sony have against them. Nintendo would need to "steal" those gamers as well. Just imagine how powerful it could be when all the three types of gamers are in their hands. Yes the hardcore gamers are important just look at the sales of games like Halo, Grand Theft Auto, etc. 

Nintendo needs to stop with leaving some technology behind in their hardware. Remember when Nintendo first lost? Why was that? Oh yeah it was because it failed to have CDs and DVD format discs. Why was the Gamecube so disappointing? Oh yeah it failed to have the type of size discs the others offered.  Now with the Wii, its a different story. Their winning edge is their ability to capture a lost audience who never would have thought of playing video games. But as a long fan I felt betrayed to some extent. I love their games but knowing that the Wii didnt offer HD or couldnt play DVDs so my family and I could watch felt bad. I know graphics dont matter but it wouldnt have hurt Nintendo to release one that was capable of displaying it. I say this mostly because of how Super Mario Galaxy looked when we got our 50 inch HD tv for Christmas. In my standard tv it looked AWESOME but when I first saw it on the HD tv I saw blurriness and the color was fainting. Really I felt sad, I thought due to my lack of knowledge of that time that it was going to be mind blowing, so darn beautiful but that didnt happen. 

I also have many people that I know who havent bought a Wii due to the fact of the reason of how ugly it looks in those big tvs and I cant blame them. My bro in law own all three and he said just imagine all those Nintendo franchises and how beautiful they would look in 1080p HD tv. I have a feeling for the next generation, Nintendo is only going to offer 720p. :(

I love you Nintendo but please listen to your fans. You even deleted those forums on your website. I love both you and Sony but Sony wins in terms of listening to fans and giving the best entertainment thus far. The Wii is fun but if you could only listen.

Had nintendo of listened to the fans we wouldn't have Mario Galaxy (but a more direct Mario 64 sequel), the Wii, Moton control, or be in first place.....

Plus when Nintendo gave the ball to the fans for Zelda TP the fans ripped it a new *******:(

Look I want a new starfox on wii but I LIVE in my dreams and I PLAY in nintendos dreams.....



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dany612 said:

Well I am new to VGChartz and this my first thread. I would just love to put my thoughts about what I think of Nintendo.

 

First of all I want to question Nintendo's choice of Wii as the name of their console. They made it clear that it of course means everyone. Everyone sitting down or up and playing and having fun. Joy!! But when you really think of it, Wii represents mostly the casuals and the core gamers Nintendo has been able to gather. Besides Metroid what other game has Nintendo its self created for the hardcore gamers?

Wait, so Metroid is a "hardcore" game, but Zelda isn't? I'm a bit confused. You're using terms like casual, core, and hardcore. Stop grouping people together.

It has failed to even create new characters, it just keeps refreshing old ones which is fine since I love them but I do want something new.

Punch-Out!! hasn't seen a game since the SNES era. Sin & Punishment was a Japan-only game. Pikmin is a new franchise and they're still working on the third one.

Now don't say "but the hardcores don't matter, Nintendo doesn't need them" that statement is true to some extent. If Nintendo wants to remain on top it needs to demolish the edge Microsoft and Sony have against them. Nintendo would need to "steal" those gamers as well. Just imagine how powerful it could be when all the three types of gamers are in their hands. Yes the hardcore gamers are important just look at the sales of games like Halo, Grand Theft Auto, etc. 

Again with the hardcore/casual terms! Nintendo has just as many "hardcore" games as Sony and Microsoft. I think I've put more of my life in Animal Crossing than I put into all the Halo games together. Let's stop catagorizing games as these silly terms.

Nintendo needs to stop with leaving some technology behind in their hardware. Remember when Nintendo first lost? Why was that? Oh yeah it was because it failed to have CDs and DVD format discs.

Nintendo has been ontop of technology every gen except this one. The NES was more powerful than the 2600, 5200, 7800, Master System, etc, the SNES was more powerful than the Genesis and Turbografx16, the N64 was more powerful than the PS1 and Saturn, and the GCN was more powerful than the PS2 and onpar with the xbox. Granted, Nintendo's choice to stick with Carts did hurt them but I still like carts more than CDs.

Why was the Gamecube so disappointing? Oh yeah it failed to have the type of size discs the others offered.

lol. I don't recall anyone complaning that the GCN used small discs. It was more or less the "kiddy console" it was labeled thanks to the marketing wars back in the 16bit gen with SEGA.

Now with the Wii, its a different story. Their winning edge is their ability to capture a lost audience who never would have thought of playing video games. But as a long fan I felt betrayed to some extent.

Wait, you felt betrayed? You were given a console with full back compatibility(something Sony and Microsoft seem to have trouble with) with the GCN. The Virtual Console? Revival of dead franchises? 2-D Mario? Two 3-D Mario games? Yeah, they're are betraying us SO much.

I love their games but knowing that the Wii didnt offer HD or couldnt play DVDs so my family and I could watch felt bad.

So what? The Wii isn't an HD console. Dude, remember how like, I dunno, EVERY CONSOLE BEFORE THE PS360 WASN'T HD? An HD console isn't required to play excellent games.

I know graphics dont matter but it wouldnt have hurt Nintendo to release one that was capable of displaying it. I say this mostly because of how Super Mario Galaxy looked when we got our 50 inch HD tv for Christmas. In my standard tv it looked AWESOME but when I first saw it on the HD tv I saw blurriness and the color was fainting.Really I felt sad, I thought due to my lack of knowledge of that time that it was going to be mind blowing, so darn beautiful but that didnt happen.

Component cables, bro.

 

I also have many people that I know who havent bought a Wii due to the fact of the reason of how ugly it looks in those big tvs and I cant blame them. My bro in law own all three and he said just imagine all those Nintendo franchises and how beautiful they would look in 1080p HD tv. I have a feeling for the next generation, Nintendo is only going to offer 720p. :(

lol. Please, if you will, name a few games in 1080p this gen? Hell, many HD games aren't even true HD. Do some research, bro.

I love you Nintendo but please listen to your fans. You even deleted those forums on your website. I love both you and Sony but Sony wins in terms of listening to fans and giving the best entertainment thus far. The Wii is fun but if you could only listen.

Nintendo released a game two gens ago in Japan only. Because of the want for this game(Sin&Punishment) to be over seas, not only did the release it on virtual console, they're making a full-fledged sequel. If that's not fan service, then I have no idea what is.

 

Wait, so Metroid is a "hardcore" game, but Zelda isn't? I'm a bit confused. You're using terms like casual, core, and hardcore. Stop grouping people together.

wow u didnt have to be so mean about it!!! Gosh I was only saying what i was thinking geesh. I thought this wasnt gamespot or ign! But some of your points are very weak.