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richardhutnik said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Ail said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Right, you could pull off Assassins creed without a living breathing city and massive landscapes and combat."

San Andreas had all those things. While that's too much for the PS1, it's not too much for the Wii, so all that gets sacrificed is an expensive coat of paint.

Have you played AC2 ?

You can climb every single building and move from top to top..

You can not interact with any San Andreas building, they are just blocks with shiny texture on top...

1. That was not among the things you listed.

2. Again, that was on the PS2, which the Wii would have room to add such abilities, even if it would have been too much on the PS2.

Couldn't you climb on top of the buildings in Spiderman 2 on the PS2, and also interact with the city?

Never played it but probably. But again, is this what the people bitching want? They want a game that was done 7 years ago? Whats the point in buying NEW games when theyve been done almost a decade ago?



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Carl2291 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Maybe the best developers, directors and producers dont want to sacrifice their vision and scope at the expense of a userbase that mostly consists of people interested in carnival games, fitness games, and deca sports resort."

They stopped buying those. Did you even pay attention to recent news?

They might have stopped buying those specific games, but they didn't stop buying those type of games.

Top selling Wii games from this weeks top 25 that aren't Nintendo published, and don't feature any Nintendo characters (afaik)...

8. Just Dance
9. MW: Reflex
10. EA Sports Active
11. Your Shape ft. JM
13. LEGO SW
14. Band Hero
15. Deal or no Deal
16. Taiko something
18. NERF NStrike Elite
20. EA Sports Active +
21. Carnival Games Mini Golf
22. Toy Story Mania
24. Random long named Japanese game.
25. Hasbro Family Game Night 2

Did they really stop buying those?

At the level when it showed they preferred those games over everything else.

And Monster Hunter 3 shows the vision can still be done, just with more imagination and talent than just thinking you need the best graphics.

"Fine then, tell Nintendo to make/get you a FPS."

No. The third parties should make the audience themselves. That's what they did on the other systems. Don't give me this bullshit that Nintendo has to make the audience appear.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Euphoria14 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Maybe if these Wii owners bought Metroid Prime more than they did when it was released years ago third parties would have made them since they would have seen a big audience for it,"

That's just an excuse. Metroid Prime was not an FPS. That's like saying Zelda is GTA.

Fine then, tell Nintendo to make/get you a FPS.

They can get it for you if they really want to. We all know these companies will take the money.

Why so u guys can go on bitching about only Nintendo games sell?

and

why should Nintendo have to do everything themselves?



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In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

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vaio said:
Carl2291 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Maybe the best developers, directors and producers dont want to sacrifice their vision and scope at the expense of a userbase that mostly consists of people interested in carnival games, fitness games, and deca sports resort."

They stopped buying those. Did you even pay attention to recent news?

They might have stopped buying those specific games, but they didn't stop buying those type of games.

Top selling Wii games from this weeks top 25 that aren't Nintendo published, and don't feature any Nintendo characters (afaik)...

8. Just Dance
9. MW: Reflex
10. EA Sports Active
11. Your Shape ft. JM
13. LEGO SW
14. Band Hero
15. Deal or no Deal
16. Taiko something
18. NERF NStrike Elite
20. EA Sports Active +
21. Carnival Games Mini Golf
22. Toy Story Mania
24. Random long named Japanese game.
25. Hasbro Family Game Night 2

Did they really stop buying those?

well to be fair u cant have a game on that list if its not made yet so u using that list is just not relevant now is it?

Every game on that list is made... And has been selling for 7+ weeks. Here...



                            

Euphoria14 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Maybe if these Wii owners bought Metroid Prime more than they did when it was released years ago third parties would have made them since they would have seen a big audience for it,"

That's just an excuse. Metroid Prime was not an FPS. That's like saying Zelda is GTA.

Fine then, tell Nintendo to make/get you a FPS.

They can get it for you if they really want to. We all know these companies will take the money.


Bingo my friend! you nailed it! Now if only Nintendo would care........or the "hardcore audience" would care for those games in the Wii for that matter.....hmmmm?



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"Never played it but probably. But again, is this what the people bitching want? They want a game that was done 7 years ago? Whats the point in buying NEW games when theyve been done almost a decade ago?"

Twisting words. We're obviously mentioning that the features were there, so that the features can be on the Wii. Did you even read the context of the comment you replied to?



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

steverhcp02 said:
richardhutnik said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
Ail said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Right, you could pull off Assassins creed without a living breathing city and massive landscapes and combat."

San Andreas had all those things. While that's too much for the PS1, it's not too much for the Wii, so all that gets sacrificed is an expensive coat of paint.

Have you played AC2 ?

You can climb every single building and move from top to top..

You can not interact with any San Andreas building, they are just blocks with shiny texture on top...

1. That was not among the things you listed.

2. Again, that was on the PS2, which the Wii would have room to add such abilities, even if it would have been too much on the PS2.

Couldn't you climb on top of the buildings in Spiderman 2 on the PS2, and also interact with the city?

Never played it but probably. But again, is this what the people bitching want? They want a game that was done 7 years ago? Whats the point in buying NEW games when theyve been done almost a decade ago?

now you are just arguing for the sake of arguing, if you could make a game like that 7 years ago with a lesser console then why cant you make a new game with those features with the wii 7 years later? or atleast try to make one before complaining that your games dont sell on that platform.

As I said before all wii owners want is a serious effort from theese big corps nothing else and if that serious effort doesnt work out then atleast I will stop bitching and enjoy my Nintendo games but untill then i will bitch.



Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello"      R.I.P AC Milan

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.

vaio said:
Carl2291 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Maybe the best developers, directors and producers dont want to sacrifice their vision and scope at the expense of a userbase that mostly consists of people interested in carnival games, fitness games, and deca sports resort."

They stopped buying those. Did you even pay attention to recent news?

They might have stopped buying those specific games, but they didn't stop buying those type of games.

Top selling Wii games from this weeks top 25 that aren't Nintendo published, and don't feature any Nintendo characters (afaik)...

8. Just Dance
9. MW: Reflex
10. EA Sports Active
11. Your Shape ft. JM
13. LEGO SW
14. Band Hero
15. Deal or no Deal
16. Taiko something
18. NERF NStrike Elite
20. EA Sports Active +
21. Carnival Games Mini Golf
22. Toy Story Mania
24. Random long named Japanese game.
25. Hasbro Family Game Night 2

Did they really stop buying those?

well to be fair u cant have a game on that list if its not made yet so u using that list is just not relevant now is it?

Well, email Ubisoft, EA, Activision, Rockstar, etc. and tell them they should start pumping out games with similar technical abilities to the games they made 10 years ago, maybe youll get a response.



LordTheNightKnight said:
"Never played it but probably. But again, is this what the people bitching want? They want a game that was done 7 years ago? Whats the point in buying NEW games when theyve been done almost a decade ago?"

Twisting words. We're obviously mentioning that the features were there, so that the features can be on the Wii. Did you even read the context of the comment you replied to?

Yes i read it but you dont seem to understand the fact that when there are games like AC2, GTA, Bioshock, Uncharted, MW2 on the market you cant go into a timewarp and make a game like AC2 with the features from last gen, the games must progress not regress.



Carl2291 said:
vaio said:
Carl2291 said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Maybe the best developers, directors and producers dont want to sacrifice their vision and scope at the expense of a userbase that mostly consists of people interested in carnival games, fitness games, and deca sports resort."

They stopped buying those. Did you even pay attention to recent news?

They might have stopped buying those specific games, but they didn't stop buying those type of games.

Top selling Wii games from this weeks top 25 that aren't Nintendo published, and don't feature any Nintendo characters (afaik)...

8. Just Dance
9. MW: Reflex
10. EA Sports Active
11. Your Shape ft. JM
13. LEGO SW
14. Band Hero
15. Deal or no Deal
16. Taiko something
18. NERF NStrike Elite
20. EA Sports Active +
21. Carnival Games Mini Golf
22. Toy Story Mania
24. Random long named Japanese game.
25. Hasbro Family Game Night 2

Did they really stop buying those?

well to be fair u cant have a game on that list if its not made yet so u using that list is just not relevant now is it?

Every game on that list is made... And has been selling for 7+ weeks. Here...

what i was refering too is that u cant have a hardcore fps game on that list if its not made yet, and dont come in with ports or some low budget titles from smaller companies.

All wii owners want is a serious effort from the big corps!!!!



Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello"      R.I.P AC Milan

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.