"See many HD owners asking for publishers to release fitness games on HD consoles ?"

Another BS argument. This is about core gamers wanting Wii getting respect, not the lack of expanded audience on the other systems.

Besides, if someone made a compelling fitness game bundled with a working fitness peripheral, and marketed it well, it would draw people.

Too many long discussion so this may have been said already:

I just dont understand it. If you look at the top selling games of the Wii. I posted this in another thread:

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?page=1&results=50&name=&console=Wii&minSales=0&publisher=&genre=

Of the top 30 selling games WW 10 have mario or sonic in them.
Of those 30:

4 are fitness games.
6 are "Wii" branded games (music, fit, sports, resort)
13 are mini game compilations.

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=PS3&publisher=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

Of the 30 top selling PS3 games there are FPS, Third person shooters, third person action adventure, sports games, racing games, rhythm games and platformers.

http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=X360&publisher=&genre=&minSales=0&results=50&sort=Total

Of the top 30 games for the 360 you see the same thing.

Now, queue the "well devs never gave wii owners the chance to experience the aforementioned genres with quality" So i say to that Nintendo made its bed with the concept of the wii and now its consumers must lie in it.

What sells and the connotation of what the wii offers is clearly visible by nintendo and its developers, this seems to be a problem with the userbase who is clamoring for more and taking it personally when these developers speak out about the truth of the matter.

A lot of what has progressed in the aforementioned genres requires a lot of processing power and tech behind it. Control schemes on the wii lack many of th einputs and intuitive nature of gameplay that are required to enjoy the games and genres.

There are a lot of variables that go into why or why a game cannot or should not be ported or brought to the wii. Its reality, you cant have an assassins creed game without massive environments, huge draw distances, and tons of stuff going on on screen because it wouldnt work. You cant have Bioshock without the atmospheric graphics, immersion and storytelling.

Sports games have lacked on the wii, some have been botched, FPS are almost nonexistent in terms of sales compared to the 360 and PS3.

Expectations grow within genres over time, things need to improve and this is why its imperative that the hardware be able to accomadate to move genres forward.

This is without mentioning the control and button mapping necessary to make the game intuitive. There are so many complex variables and when developers are already committed to the immersiveness, quality, and progression of their titles, genres and franchises these things must be considered.

On top of that, many developers of the quality games we all love of this gen and others have a deep love for their craft and work. Without progressing them perhaps they dont feel satisfied with their art......lots of things.

People need to stop bitching about these companies when they make a business decision that, yes, can be debated, but clearly has no single answer...if they are unhappy then get a system that gives you what you desire.....if not, then stick with the wii. And vice versa in regard to HD owners unhappy with their products.

I wish I knew what a codswallop was........

@noname2200
Honestly, all these games were under 12 hours:
No More Heroes,The Conduit, Madworld,Silent Hill, Deadly Creatures, de Blob, FFCC: The Crystal Bearers barely passed it, All 3 on-rails shooters (HOTD, RE:DC, DS:E), many minigame collections, Need for Speed Nitro, Sonic and the Black Knight, and Tenchu.

So the mask comes off, is no longer about the games. what you want is the respect from the other gamers that diss the WII, But you know even if the WII has an expanded audience that has different preferences than the PS3/360/PC audience. it has great games and it provides good entertaiment. However the gaming press and forums would not show more respect to the WII besides the fact that it sell as Beast. Why? because forums and gaming sites cater to the hardcore audience and honestly we see the WII as something for a different group of people and if the forums tried to change to cater to a different causal WII audience they would die, as the majority of those people (casuals) dont care about gaming sites, E3 , forums, NPD, etc.

I respect the WII and I consider the WII to be a Great console and Unique in many ways. however Im just tired about the WII forum fighters destroying every topic and thread to complain about Why Imaginary game X doesnt get a main entry on the WII, as I consider that behavior to be pathetic and sickening.

enjoy your games and forget about the rest.

No matter how much people complain these companies will make what they want for whatever console(s) they want. End of story really.

If I was a developer I would make what I want to make for whatever I want to make it for. I wouldn't change my vision just because people ask me to. I know what I like to make and I know what I am good at.

Who knows, maybe my view would bankrupt me, but is there a guarantee that doing what everyone else tells me to do would be all rainbows and butterflies?

Is there a guarantee that a $15-30M project on the Wii would bring these devs more money than a $15-30M project on the HD Twins? Am I going to spend around the same amount and then offer my game(s) for $10 less and then make the same and/or more money?

I don't know these answers, I'm not even in a proper state of mind and not even sure if my post makes any sense really.

Be gentle.

I have a HD system, I have everything except PS3 and I will continue to bitch about the lack of effort on the Wii because at this point there is no excuse for them not to bring it to the Wii.

When they stop bitching about their halfassed work not being sold enough on the Wii then maybe i will stop bitching too.

All I want is the same effort put into a Wii game from theese developers as they put into the HD twins, no more of their C teams making games for the Wii bring on their A teams (their best teams) to make a game for the wii.

FPS games would fit perfectly on the Wii with the wiimote and yet they dont bring it, they rather bring it on the HD with their inferior controls and that is fracked up especially when they bitch that their games dont sell on the Wii.

Just look at Modern warfare, even though its inferior graphics wise and gimped both game wise and marketing wise the game is still a superior experinece on the Wii, especially when you allready have played it on a HD system once (thats all better graphic does, its better the first time with enhanced graphics then it doesnt mutter anynmore).

"So the mask comes off, is no longer about the games. what you want is the respect from the other gamers that diss the WII"

I did not write that. You twisted my comment. I want third party respect. Don't you try to pretend I wrote something I didn't.

@Green

This has always been a favorite argument. People taking something totally subjective and passing it off as fact.

Not everyone likes playing FPS games with the Wiimote. I am one of them. I would rather take a controller any day of the week. Hell, I don't even like playing them with a mouse.

Maybe the best developers, directors and producers dont want to sacrifice their vision and scope at the expense of a userbase that mostly consists of people interested in carnival games, fitness games, and deca sports resort.

If you like living in the past then so be it, Ive been playing with a controller for almost 30 years and the main thing during this time has been better graphics and thats so old now.

I have eagerly been awaiting the Wii since Nintendo announced their work on the revolution project (the wii) in the mid 90´s and its finally here and it pisses me of that i have to wait even longer to play the games that benefit the most from the wii mote wich in this case would be FPS games.