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MaxwellGT2000 on 15 January 2010

LOL at Daemon Hatfield... cause you know he's the best guy to go to on this opinion...



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radiantshadow92 on 15 January 2010
bmmb1 said:
radiantshadow92 said:
bmmb1 said:
radiantshadow92 said:
darthdevidem01 said:
This is why I only go to IGN for reviews, nothing else

their review staff is excellent, I trust them there

but everything else they do is just........bad

the guy who wrote this does review games =p....i think hes alright, i mean this article really isnt bad, its not perfect, but i wouldnt say its bad

errr... Are you talking about Daemon Hatfield from IGN? He has been a certified anti-Wii person for a long, long time (maybe always?). I have stopped reading anything he had to say already a year ago...

everyone who isnt on the nintendo team is anti wii, i listen to all the podcasts and they always have something to say about how motion controls are not good, and that the wii is weak, and how the wii is sad for not having dvd capabilities, its not him only, but i dont blame them honeslty, i feel the same way about the wii, the system is not for me and apperently for many of the ign reviewers, whether he hates the wii or not though, he makes points that galaxy and other games on the wii are good, hes doesnt bring up the system or his hate towards it, but more the game...i find his article to be good overall


Since you don't like the Wii (something you are fully entitled to ) of course you find his article to be good... On a side note, Daemon Hatfield actually WAS on the Nintendo team, it was sometime during that time that I stopped reading him.

Also, personally I think that criticism of any Wii game should be written by someone who generally likes the Wii, this way when reading the criticism I can know that the criticism is not because of disliking the Wii but because of actual problems with the game itself. But that's just my opinion/wish.

sound fair enough, but the reviewer tried to get the point across also, that NSMB was playing it safe



The Ghost of RubangB on 15 January 2010

I thought this was delicious actually. The sweet taste of a delicious game, flavored with the bitter tears of a fanboy meltdown.



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radiantshadow92 on 15 January 2010
MaxwellGT2000 said:
LOL at Daemon Hatfield... cause you know he's the best guy to go to on this opinion...

no hes not, but i agree with this opinion though



Khuutra on 15 January 2010
The Ghost of RubangB said:
I thought this was delicious actually. The sweet taste of a delicious game, flavored with the bitter tears of a fanboy meltdown.

Maybe I'm too tender-hearted



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Kasz216 on 15 January 2010
radiantshadow92 said:
Kasz216 said:
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Khuutra said:
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Khuutra said:
I don't like watching people have breakdowns, so this is actually kind of hard to read.

Somebody having such a negative reaction to a game selling well - to people having fun with it, and their friends buying it as a result - is distressing in and of itself. I winced, reading this.

And the whole "NSMBWii plays just like the DS game" memetic needs to die

werd i played both, and they are different.

but....he having a breakdown because he is trying to get people to see his point, but no one will listen (since it got platformer of the year and all)...i agree with him to some extent though

What exactly do you agree with him on? That New Super Mario Bros. Wii isn't as awesome as sales suggest? That, in fact, it's mediocre? That's the word he assigned to it: "mediocrity".

I couldn't disagree with him more if he were trying to tell me God Hand sucks (ha-HA, IGN...), but that isn't really the point. The man is having a breakdown. In public. He's letting everyone see him tattoo his heart onto his bicep, with all the pettiness and ugliness made plain to the world. I'm embarrassed for him. I'm ashamed for him.

well he is a writer, so he is supposed to write about things pertaining to his opinion and receive hits for the site, so yeah i mean its his job, right now your showing your colors by being ashamed of him because he wants to express his opinion as a writer

 

and i agree with him on the fact that mario galaxy is top notch stuff nintendo should be doing, not bringing a game that has no online co-op or any more than 4 characters, they should be bringing us some online,  and more characters, maybe a little comical story or something (just examples)....all these things are possible on the wii but the developers played it safe (some call it laziness) with this game forsure. you cannot seriously say that they worked 100 percent on this, and i will go as far as to say that they do not deserve the sales, surely its a great game, but to cash in such an ammount of money for little effort is what annoys me, and it annoys me even more that people dont see that.

Proffesional writers express things... well proffesionally....

the article doesn't quite come off as proffesional... it comes off as well... embarrising.

It reminds me of when one of my friends would drunkenly complain that his band wasn't getting a chance when people with less talent got all the credit and hype.

whats professional about writers writing about games? i think jokes and hahas have to come into play when you write about games.. .

He gets paid at IGN right?

Also, proffesional writers tell jokes... all the time.  Have you never read a newspaper or ESPN or something.

 

yes i have >_>

but how proffesional can you be when writing about games....i mean hes trying to give points on how NSMB is not all that good, and gives jokes to back it up, sure some cross the line, but its the way he wants to write it to get his point across

You can be very professional when writing about games.

Look at the writers at ESPN.  Most of them are very proffesional and they're writing about proffesional sports.

proffessional sports are no more a "serious" topic then videogames.


The thing is... he' isn't trying to give points on how NSMB isn't that good... he's having a breakdown.  If he was trying to give points and his opinion on it he would do it in a more proffesional way... which could in fact include jokes.

 

The article he posted seemed like nothing more then some random breakdown a forum poster here would post.  He should be ashamed at getting paid for writing such a thing.



The Ghost of RubangB on 15 January 2010

I can't believe he seriously argued that the amount of levels matters. Mega Man 2 had 8 levels, and then Wily's Castle which I think had 4 parts. So that was 12 levels. People agree it's one of the greatest platformers OF ALL TIME. Those are still a damn good 12 levels.



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radiantshadow92 on 15 January 2010
Kasz216 said:
radiantshadow92 said:
Kasz216 said:
radiantshadow92 said:
Kasz216 said:
radiantshadow92 said:
Khuutra said:
radiantshadow92 said:
Khuutra said:
I don't like watching people have breakdowns, so this is actually kind of hard to read.

Somebody having such a negative reaction to a game selling well - to people having fun with it, and their friends buying it as a result - is distressing in and of itself. I winced, reading this.

And the whole "NSMBWii plays just like the DS game" memetic needs to die

werd i played both, and they are different.

but....he having a breakdown because he is trying to get people to see his point, but no one will listen (since it got platformer of the year and all)...i agree with him to some extent though

What exactly do you agree with him on? That New Super Mario Bros. Wii isn't as awesome as sales suggest? That, in fact, it's mediocre? That's the word he assigned to it: "mediocrity".

I couldn't disagree with him more if he were trying to tell me God Hand sucks (ha-HA, IGN...), but that isn't really the point. The man is having a breakdown. In public. He's letting everyone see him tattoo his heart onto his bicep, with all the pettiness and ugliness made plain to the world. I'm embarrassed for him. I'm ashamed for him.

well he is a writer, so he is supposed to write about things pertaining to his opinion and receive hits for the site, so yeah i mean its his job, right now your showing your colors by being ashamed of him because he wants to express his opinion as a writer

 

and i agree with him on the fact that mario galaxy is top notch stuff nintendo should be doing, not bringing a game that has no online co-op or any more than 4 characters, they should be bringing us some online,  and more characters, maybe a little comical story or something (just examples)....all these things are possible on the wii but the developers played it safe (some call it laziness) with this game forsure. you cannot seriously say that they worked 100 percent on this, and i will go as far as to say that they do not deserve the sales, surely its a great game, but to cash in such an ammount of money for little effort is what annoys me, and it annoys me even more that people dont see that.

Proffesional writers express things... well proffesionally....

the article doesn't quite come off as proffesional... it comes off as well... embarrising.

It reminds me of when one of my friends would drunkenly complain that his band wasn't getting a chance when people with less talent got all the credit and hype.

whats professional about writers writing about games? i think jokes and hahas have to come into play when you write about games.. .

He gets paid at IGN right?

Also, proffesional writers tell jokes... all the time.  Have you never read a newspaper or ESPN or something.

 

yes i have >_>

but how proffesional can you be when writing about games....i mean hes trying to give points on how NSMB is not all that good, and gives jokes to back it up, sure some cross the line, but its the way he wants to write it to get his point across

You can be very professional when writing about games.

Look at the writers at ESPN.  Most of them are very proffesional and they're writing about proffesional sports.

proffessional sports are no more a "serious" topic then videogames.


The thing is... he' isn't trying to give points on how NSMB isn't that good... he's having a breakdown.  If he was trying to give points and his opinion on it he would do it in a more proffesional way... which could in fact include jokes.

 

The article he posted seemed like nothing more then some random breakdown a forum poster here would post.  He should be ashamed at getting paid for writing such a thing.

its not, this editorial is actually boasted by other editors (check out gamescoop podcast)...all of them agree with this editorial and so do i, you may say hes having a breakdown, but he just expressing his opinion and his job entitles him to do so, he brings up GREAT points, whether he has bad jokes or anger issues, his point is still damn good



radiantshadow92 on 15 January 2010
The Ghost of RubangB said:
I can't believe he seriously argued that the amount of levels matters. Mega Man 2 had 8 levels, and then Wily's Castle which I think had 4 parts. So that was 12 levels. People agree it's one of the greatest platformers OF ALL TIME. Those are still a damn good 12 levels.

yeah def. the quality of the levels matter more



dib8rman on 15 January 2010

Simplification:

If the following statement is true then I may have solved something here...

Condition.

If games require being played and playing a game in turn is based on a manner of fun.

And

If the purchasing of games is understood as a person purchasing a promise of playing something that is such a form that playing is a manner of fun.

Then perhaps people buy games to play them under the idea that will be entertained based on the value or the catalyst used for the purchase.

Furthermore

A person could then base game software sales to be on this promise of fun.

However!

The observer can now be certain based on the sources of that promise (given the amount of time of referenced) which game has been more successful at entertaining over others.

=D

What I'm saying is the game sold gang busters in the first month, give it time to see what happens and not jump on Nintendo for selling millions in a claim that they half-assed it.

If their is a consumer backlash from this Mario game, it will be very visible in a few forms. Let the consumers speak not a IGN mouth feeder who probably has a few agenda's behind his words.



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