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Pokemonbrawlvg said:
COMG listing for this week

[PS3] PS3 Dmc Devil May Cry - 299Pt
[PSP] Digimon Adventure - 191pt
129pt - Animal Crossing [3DS] Tobidase
[3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 45Pt
[3DS] Mario Super Seal - 44pt
[3DS] Monster Hunter 3G Best Price - 33Pt
[3DS] orbs and strange Dragon Chibi Taiko no Tatsujin 33pt -
[PSP] dawn of adventure One Piece ROMANCE DAWN 30pt -
[PS3] ? Call of Duty: Black Ops U (Dubbed) - 28Pt
[PS3] Hokuto Musou Shin (Limited Edition) - 26Pt
[3DS] Toriko Gourmet Monsters! - 23Pt
[WiiU] New Super Mario Bros. U - 21Pt
[3DS] pointed hat and magic town 18pt -
[WiiU] Nintendo Land - 17pt
[3DS] labyrinth ∞ and Pokemon Mystery Dungeon gate Magna 17pt -
[WiiU] Monster Hunter 3G HD Ver. - 15pt
[3DS] Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney 13pt -
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven GO2 Chrono Stone nep c - 13pt
[NDS] Pokemon Black 2 - 12pt
[NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World 11pt


Is it just me or are these not very accurate about the sales? I think I remember one that didn't have AC or paper Mario, even though they were two of the top games in sales that week.



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Pokemonbrawlvg said:
trestres said:
Pokemonbrawlvg said:
trestres said:
As Animal Crossing: New Leaf is reportedly still out of stock at many retailers (Nintendo never learns), it's probable that misinformed customers or people simply desperate to play the series and perhaps catch up meanwhile they wait for the 3DS iteration to be in constant stock, could be buying the DS version.

As for Fantasy Life, this one is probably so supply constrained that it may not be in this wee's chart. Publishers, including Nintendo, are afraid that the 3DS userbase won't buy any single game at all (See Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Papar Mario, Fantasy Life, etc)
They lack coherence and are too afraid to cause a bad impression in case they overship, so they undership massively and then lose tens of thousands of sales. Good Job.

You're post makes no sense. If it's sold out, that means someone bought it. They keep restocking the game, so that means they want people to keep buying it. There's no conspiracy or marketing trick. A game just simply sold out. 

No one can really control how a game sells or how popular is suddenly becomes. Level 5 sure didn't know Fantasy Life would become a success. Nintendo themselves said they are having problems producing copies rapidly because the cart is specially made.

The only reason the other game would pop up again is sudden interest in the series from people who are otherwise interest in New Leaf or have played New Leaf and want to check out other games within the series. 

How doesn't it make any sense? People cannot buy what is not produced. Nintendo always goes on the conservative route, it's something that has been going on for a long time, and they even admitted this with Fire Emblem's bundle fiasco on the 3DS. Although Animal Crossing will be available on the long run, unlike the Fire Emblem HW Bundle, people will still have to wait weeks to get the game because Nintendo almost always underships.

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/07/03/nintendo-completely-failed-to-anticipate-demand-for-fire-emblem-3ds-bundle/

Like I said, they can't predict how fast something can sell. They can't produce thousands of copies out of the blue. Plus, even though the game was unavailable, it doesn't hurt the consumer because it will be available eventually (not weeks or we'll see constant drops in sales) or Nintendo since the game is still selling in doves (ahead of Wild World at the same time).

Also, did you read the information in the link you provided? Nowhere did it say Nintendo wanted to people not to buy it. The bundle was limited, they even said so themselves. Anybody would know it was limited, Nintendo just didn't expect how quickly it would sell (this also goes with how well Fire Emblem sold itself; third best selling game in the series).

You're telling me they planned on making this bundle with enough copies for everyone to buy? A limited bundle at that? "Iwata apologized, saying that Nintendo completely underestimated the demand for the Fire Emblem: Awakening, adding that, unfortunately, while they wanted to reopen pre-orders for the bundle, doing so would have been in violation of a Japanese law."

Correction: Third best selling game in the series. 

Of course they can't produce copies out of the blue, that's why they should have enough quantities of their products before launch, and this is not HW we are talking about, it's much more simple. By the way, we see constant drops in sales, and we see rebounds once stock is available. Perhaps Nintendo is not the only one to blame here, retailers may also have the blame if the want to play it safe and preorder less than necessary copies to meet the demand, but seriously, both parties should have known that 3 million copies of the game would sell almost immediately during the Holiday season. The game should be at least 500k copies ahead from what it is now had demand been estimated better by both sides. In the long run copies will be sold though, but sales will be lost no doubt.

I did read the information, and I never said Nintendo didn't want people to buy this bundle, or any other game for the case being, where did you read that? I'm telling you that they always play it safe, they are a risk avoiding machine when it comes to production and stock. It's OK but sometimes it backfires. Like it did with Fire Emblem, they didn't analyze the market correctly and thus they lost a hell lot of sales, and in this case it was HW sales as well as SW. Making more doesn't hurt, HW always sells in the long run, specially if it's a special edition, but no, they went ahead and produce so very little that they had to go on publicly and apologize.



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Olivernintentoal said:
Pokemonbrawlvg said:
COMG listing for this week

[PS3] PS3 Dmc Devil May Cry - 299Pt
[PSP] Digimon Adventure - 191pt
129pt - Animal Crossing [3DS] Tobidase
[3DS] New Super Mario Bros. 2 - 45Pt
[3DS] Mario Super Seal - 44pt
[3DS] Monster Hunter 3G Best Price - 33Pt
[3DS] orbs and strange Dragon Chibi Taiko no Tatsujin 33pt -
[PSP] dawn of adventure One Piece ROMANCE DAWN 30pt -
[PS3] ? Call of Duty: Black Ops U (Dubbed) - 28Pt
[PS3] Hokuto Musou Shin (Limited Edition) - 26Pt
[3DS] Toriko Gourmet Monsters! - 23Pt
[WiiU] New Super Mario Bros. U - 21Pt
[3DS] pointed hat and magic town 18pt -
[WiiU] Nintendo Land - 17pt
[3DS] labyrinth ∞ and Pokemon Mystery Dungeon gate Magna 17pt -
[WiiU] Monster Hunter 3G HD Ver. - 15pt
[3DS] Professor Layton VS Ace Attorney 13pt -
[3DS] Inazuma Eleven GO2 Chrono Stone nep c - 13pt
[NDS] Pokemon Black 2 - 12pt
[NDS] Animal Crossing: Wild World 11pt


Is it just me or are these not very accurate about the sales? I think I remember one that didn't have AC or paper Mario, even though they were two of the top games in sales that week.

It's not. It's just what sold at COMG stores, doesn't repersent Media Create and Famitsu sales.



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trestres said:
Pokemonbrawlvg said:
trestres said:
Pokemonbrawlvg said:
trestres said:
As Animal Crossing: New Leaf is reportedly still out of stock at many retailers (Nintendo never learns), it's probable that misinformed customers or people simply desperate to play the series and perhaps catch up meanwhile they wait for the 3DS iteration to be in constant stock, could be buying the DS version.

As for Fantasy Life, this one is probably so supply constrained that it may not be in this wee's chart. Publishers, including Nintendo, are afraid that the 3DS userbase won't buy any single game at all (See Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Papar Mario, Fantasy Life, etc)
They lack coherence and are too afraid to cause a bad impression in case they overship, so they undership massively and then lose tens of thousands of sales. Good Job.

You're post makes no sense. If it's sold out, that means someone bought it. They keep restocking the game, so that means they want people to keep buying it. There's no conspiracy or marketing trick. A game just simply sold out. 

No one can really control how a game sells or how popular is suddenly becomes. Level 5 sure didn't know Fantasy Life would become a success. Nintendo themselves said they are having problems producing copies rapidly because the cart is specially made.

The only reason the other game would pop up again is sudden interest in the series from people who are otherwise interest in New Leaf or have played New Leaf and want to check out other games within the series. 

How doesn't it make any sense? People cannot buy what is not produced. Nintendo always goes on the conservative route, it's something that has been going on for a long time, and they even admitted this with Fire Emblem's bundle fiasco on the 3DS. Although Animal Crossing will be available on the long run, unlike the Fire Emblem HW Bundle, people will still have to wait weeks to get the game because Nintendo almost always underships.

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/07/03/nintendo-completely-failed-to-anticipate-demand-for-fire-emblem-3ds-bundle/

Like I said, they can't predict how fast something can sell. They can't produce thousands of copies out of the blue. Plus, even though the game was unavailable, it doesn't hurt the consumer because it will be available eventually (not weeks or we'll see constant drops in sales) or Nintendo since the game is still selling in doves (ahead of Wild World at the same time).

Also, did you read the information in the link you provided? Nowhere did it say Nintendo wanted to people not to buy it. The bundle was limited, they even said so themselves. Anybody would know it was limited, Nintendo just didn't expect how quickly it would sell (this also goes with how well Fire Emblem sold itself; third best selling game in the series).

You're telling me they planned on making this bundle with enough copies for everyone to buy? A limited bundle at that? "Iwata apologized, saying that Nintendo completely underestimated the demand for the Fire Emblem: Awakening, adding that, unfortunately, while they wanted to reopen pre-orders for the bundle, doing so would have been in violation of a Japanese law."

Correction: Third best selling game in the series. 

Of course they can't produce copies out of the blue, that's why they should have enough quantities of their products before launch, and this is not HW we are talking about, it's much more simple. By the way, we see constant drops in sales, and we see rebounds once stock is available. Perhaps Nintendo is not the only one to blame here, retailers may also have the blame if the want to play it safe and preorder less than necessary copies to meet the demand, but seriously, both parties should have known that 3 million copies of the game would sell almost immediately during the Holiday season. The game should be at least 500k copies ahead from what it is now had demand been estimated better by both sides. In the long run copies will be sold though, but sales will be lost no doubt.

I did read the information, and I never said Nintendo didn't want people to buy this bundle, or any other game for the case being, where did you read that? I'm telling you that they always play it safe, they are a risk avoiding machine when it comes to production and stock. It's OK but sometimes it backfires. Like it did with Fire Emblem, they didn't analyze the market correctly and thus they lost a hell lot of sales, and in this case it was HW sales as well as SW. Making more doesn't hurt, HW always sells in the long run, specially if it's a special edition, but no, they went ahead and produce so very little that they had to go on publicly and apologize.

But what happens if they ship too many copies and can't get them off shelves because of weak demand, leading retailers to slash the price and drop it in the bomba bin? Iwata has said multiple times that the craze for New Leaf came as a surprise to him, Nintendo was unprepared for it, and couldn't produce enough copies to meet the demand, even now. Nintendo does this so they can prevent overshipping games. I mean, this is not something uncommon with publishers. And it's not like consumers don't have an alternative option. They can purchase download cards or buy from the eshop instead of waiting for the physical copy. The supply constraints benefits them because they can persuade consumers to adopt DD, which has been their goal with the eshop.
As someone already mentioned, NL uses special kind of cartridge, which is reportedly in short supply, so it's physically impossible to produce enough copies to satisfy demand anyway. You can't just ship a crapton of games expecting them all to sellout. Nintendo were going to ship 200k copies initially, but strong preorders caused them to up the shipment to 500k. Capcom shipped 1m copies of MH3 the first week, but took nearly a whole year and several price drops to sell it all. This seemed to be the reason for the low initial shipment for MH 3G, but they stuck another shipment in there because it was selling out.



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I expect a pokemon+monster hunter storm to hit the charts on June, it will be like the good old days of 2010 but now on the same platform :D



NintendoPie said:

Wat?

Do you mean people are only buying it for the Nintendo label? No... that can't be.


I'm sure they'd buy you if you were for sale on a shelf in Japan, NINTENDOPie!



trestres said:
Pokemonbrawlvg said:
trestres said:
As Animal Crossing: New Leaf is reportedly still out of stock at many retailers (Nintendo never learns), it's probable that misinformed customers or people simply desperate to play the series and perhaps catch up meanwhile they wait for the 3DS iteration to be in constant stock, could be buying the DS version.

As for Fantasy Life, this one is probably so supply constrained that it may not be in this wee's chart. Publishers, including Nintendo, are afraid that the 3DS userbase won't buy any single game at all (See Animal Crossing, Fire Emblem, Papar Mario, Fantasy Life, etc)
They lack coherence and are too afraid to cause a bad impression in case they overship, so they undership massively and then lose tens of thousands of sales. Good Job.

You're post makes no sense. If it's sold out, that means someone bought it. They keep restocking the game, so that means they want people to keep buying it. There's no conspiracy or marketing trick. A game just simply sold out. 

No one can really control how a game sells or how popular is suddenly becomes. Level 5 sure didn't know Fantasy Life would become a success. Nintendo themselves said they are having problems producing copies rapidly because the cart is specially made.

The only reason the other game would pop up again is sudden interest in the series from people who are otherwise interest in New Leaf or have played New Leaf and want to check out other games within the series. 

How doesn't it make any sense? People cannot buy what is not produced. Nintendo always goes on the conservative route, it's something that has been going on for a long time, and they even admitted this with Fire Emblem's bundle fiasco on the 3DS. Although Animal Crossing will be available on the long run, unlike the Fire Emblem HW Bundle, people will still have to wait weeks to get the game because Nintendo almost always underships.

http://www.siliconera.com/2012/07/03/nintendo-completely-failed-to-anticipate-demand-for-fire-emblem-3ds-bundle/

there is something called eShop on 3DS...



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Kresnik said:
NintendoPie said:

Wat?

Do you mean people are only buying it for the Nintendo label? No... that can't be.


I'm sure they'd buy you if you were for sale on a shelf in Japan, NINTENDOPie!

No one can afford me.



It's okay guys, no need to panic anymore. One Piece is here. All the Musou fans have been putting their pre-orders there instead of Dynasty Warriors!

And in other news, Dragon Quest keeps up the pace & Phantasy Star has a relatively good day by its own slow standards.