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Statistical Ties? Do they really matter?

Yes - If the numbers are ... 38 29.46%
 
No - If one is higher than the other, it won 47 36.43%
 
Who cares when Nintendo d... 44 34.11%
 
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daveJ on 14 January 2010
izaaz101 said:
Within 1 or 2% I consider it a tie. For me a "win" has to break the 3% barrier.

in that case since the Ps3 outsold the XBox360 by 3.82 %, the ps3 is the winner 



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 jarrod said:The Xbox360 or ps3 will not sell more than 75million units

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 2009 daveJ said: The wii will not break the 50% marketshare barrier it will go below the 40% marketshare barrier though in the future. VGChartz members: Impossible, youre an idiot that knows nothing about sales

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JaggedSac on 14 January 2010

We have to determine who won. How else can we give out the prize?



CommonMan on 14 January 2010

You can't just say that 3% is a win, seriously. We know the sample size, right? Whoever has the stats work up a standard deviation and t-test for significance. Or has this already been done and that's what the thread is about? If it's within error, then for our purposes it does not matter. Does what I just said matter to fanboys? Even less.



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WilliamWatts on 14 January 2010
JaggedSac said:
We have to determine who won. How else can we give out the prize?

Ahem, biggest loser prize? That only works for weight loss shows.



Kzoellner on 14 January 2010
ioi said:
50k is a small number out of 1.3m. It is all relative. As a percentage error or a percentage difference it is tiny.

If we were talking 150k and 200k it would be a different issue entirely

Why do I agree with this? Hell nasa only needs 80-90% of the equipment working right before launch.



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adriane23 on 14 January 2010
thekitchensink said:
A statistical tie doesn't actually mean that they tied. We don't literally get the receipts for every single copy of a game sold, so the numbers are an educated guess. If our numbers say it sold 150,000, it doesn't mean that literally 150,000 copies were sold, it's just a ballpark figure. It could be 140-160k. So, if two games sold close enough to one another, we call it a 'statistical tie' because we can't say for sure which one sold more.

This........



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Ssenkahdavic on 14 January 2010

So, 50K out of 1.3m is small enough to be acceptable. This I can agree with, giving you a margin of error of 3.84% (who wouldnt want that margin of error)

What is the limit of acceptability tho? You say 150k or 200k is too high (11.5% and 15.4%) which it is.

In my line of work, we ALWAYS have to work in the field of acceptability being in the range of +/-5%. So as far as Im concerned, it is a tie because it easily falls within the range of my own acceptability.



 

  

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WiiStation360 on 14 January 2010

Who thinks that the people who are screaming "PS3 won" would be screaming "statistical tie" if the PS3/360 numbers were reversed?



Zones on 14 January 2010
WiiStation360 said:
Who thinks that the people who are screaming "PS3 won" would be screaming "statistical tie" if the PS3/360 numbers were reversed?

I think that the people who are screaming "statistical tie" would be screaming "360 won" if the PS3/360 numbers were reversed.



WilliamWatts on 14 January 2010
Zones said:
WiiStation360 said:
Who thinks that the people who are screaming "PS3 won" would be screaming "statistical tie" if the PS3/360 numbers were reversed?

I think that the people who are screaming "statistical tie" would be screaming "360 won" if the PS3/360 numbers were reversed.

I doubt they would be screaming much at all with such a low margin. They are used to the Xbox 360 cleanly besting the PS3 in the American market in terms of relative sales. Even if the margin were reversed in the opposite direction the people claiming a victory would probably be just as pleased with themselves that the PS3 was that close.